UCLA GSEIS Distinguished Speaker Series Presents: Making Education Work for Latinas

so I’m delighted to welcome all of you today this very timely and relevant discussion for those of you that are visiting our beautiful campus and I wish to welcome you to UCLA a warm welcome this has been a very good week for UCLA with our Saturday it’s just the game but you know winning is better than losing but I want to begin my my brief comments today with talk about the special role of institutions of public higher education what role they play in our society and it really emphasized the word public you know UCLA is very proud to be one of the leading public research universities in the nation with nearly 40,000 students we are and I think many of you know this California’s largest university for nearly a hundred years UCLA’s pursuit a three-part mission and we all know it well education research and service in fact all UC campuses have that same three-part mission and today’s discussion I believe reflects actually all three of those missions all those are incorporated into what we’ll be discussing today you know I believe one of the most important services we provide to society centers around community engagement and today is no exception we’re committed to engaging a wider community we have to work beyond the borders of this institution to pursuing socially relevant research that addresses pressing societal needs and issues and educating our students so they have the skills when they leave here to collaborate compete and succeed in an increasingly diverse global environment now if you allow me to just to brag a little bit you know UCLA education department is one of the top ten in the nation ranked alongside the likes of Harvard Stanford Vanderbilt and Columbia’s teacher College we really have a jewel here we can be very proud the scholarship the teaching is extraordinary and UCLA education boasts a cadre of top experts who are studying developing testing and demonstrating new K through 12 and higher education practices and then sharing that information broadly that’s important with the world beyond this campus making sure that knowledge that’s learned through scholarship here gets transmitted one of the ways that we’re able to do this through is through effective partnerships with other entities and organizations this really is a a teen sport if we’re going to be effective and today’s discussion is about publicly sharing the results of an important study that was funded by the Eva Longoria Foundation so first I want to thank and applaud a Miss Longoria and the Eva Longoria Foundation for their vision in funding this important study thank you I also want to salute our long-standing partners the California community foundation we’ve been working together for years that we were on a variety of projects including strengthening our K through 12 and higher educational systems to meet the challenging new demands that’s the foundation that really makes a difference in the city so thank the foundation all of which brings me to today’s topic making education work for Latinas this is a vitally important topic and today we will engage in a conversation about how we as citizens can work together to address one of the most important certainly when those critical issues facing California in its future reshaping our K through 12 and higher education systems to better serve our current and future generations today’s panel discussion introduces a research study undertaken by UCLA education professor Patricia Gandara this study focuses on one specific demographic within our K through 12 population young latinas the goal of the study was to identify the factors that promote educational resiliency and long term success for this segment of our community’s children to help us understand the implications of this study I’m pleased that we’ve assembled a truly stellar panel for discussion of these results first we’re delighted to welcome the University of California’s still relatively new president Janet Napolitano welcome for being with us president Napolitano has visited UCLA quite recently on a tour of the UC campuses but we’re pleased to see her back on campus and come back and visit us frequently we’re also pleased to welcome actress and activist Eva Longoria thank you Miss Longoria for being here today and for your inspirational leadership and also pleased to welcome the CEO of the California Community Foundation our very own Antonio Hernandez we’re thrilled mr. Randy and certainly last but not least we’re delighted that UCLA education professor Patricia Gandara

this year to participate in today’s discussion thank you this goes on and on with luminaries so moderating the conversation is of course our very famous Dean Marcello essaouira as a Roscoe Dean of UCLA’s Graduate School of Education and information studies Marcelo is globally recognized as a leader one of the leading experts on 21st century education and the changes that will be needed in this new era he will facilitate what I’m sure will be a fascinating conversation thank you so I have to apologize I almost never leave events like this important events early but unfortunately before this event was announced I accepted another event I double scheduled so I said that I have to share my time between the two so I apologize for having to leave you today I will talk with Marcello after this meeting to try to extract what has been learned but I want to wish all of you a great conference today and thank you for being at UCLA take care Thank You Jean for thank you so much Jean for the wonderful wonderful words of welcome my name is Marcelo Suarez Orozco I’m the Dean of the Graduate School of Education and information studies at UCLA welcome to the first of the 2013 Dean’s distinguished speaker series a conversation with actress activist Eva Longoria and the extraordinary panel that we’ve assembled this afternoon our series is inspired to bring to UCLA the fundamental the essential the imperative conversations for education and information studies in in the 20 in the 21st century before turning to our panelists I’d like to acknowledge several distinguished guests who are in the audience today I have to start with of course our labor leader civil rights activist the great living legend Dolores Huerta the Lourdes thank you thank you for coming which is very valid orders many many other friends of UCLA and former ambassador to Euro I Frank Baxter Frank are you here Frank must have stepped out Veronica Melvin member of the presence of President Obama’s Advisory Commission on educational excellence for Hispanics California senator senator ed Hernandez representing the 24th district senator thank you thank you for coming thank you for joining us California assembly member Raul Baca negative representing the 39th district Raul is not with us he may come in a little bit later Los Angeles Superior Court Judge Michael Stern judge Stern LAUSD board member Monica Ratliff Monica welcome it’s a great great pleasure to introduce our panelists this afternoon president of the University of California Janet Napolitano leads our university a university system with over two hundred and thirty-eight thousand students about two hundred eight thousand faculty and staff and more than 1.6 million living alumni a native of New York City what borough mr. president Manhattan okay we just moved from Brooklyn so when I was two grew up in Pittsburgh and in Albuquerque New Mexico where her father was Dean of the University of New Mexico School of Medicine she earned her BA degree in political science from Santa Clara University and she was the university’s first female valedictorian as as a president of the University of California she recently pledged ten million dollars for recruiting and training graduate students and five million in financial aid to support undocumented college students at the University of California prior to

joining the University of California president Napolitano served the Secretary of Homeland Security from 2009 to 2013 just governor of Arizona from 2003 to 2009 and Attorney General of Arizona from 1998 to 2003 as governor Napolitano focus on education from pre-k through the public higher education system she was named one of the nation’s top five governors by Time magazine and Forbes magazine recently named her as one of the 10 most powerful women in the world the 11th most powerful woman in the world actress and activist Eva Longoria Eva Eva is an actress best known for her role as the Covidien Liz Solis on the hit show Desperate Housewives her film credits include she food that the ever loved Warrior Foundation you gotta help me with the lines Eva Athena still better futures for themselves and their families through education and entrepreneurship in her own words the growing Latino population is an untapped resource in this country if we give Latinas the tools to unlock their potential we will see amazing results from the amazing Eva Longoria in 2011 she was appointed by President Obama to the Commission of National Museum of the American Latino which will house historical artifacts images and personal stories documenting more than 500 years of Latinos contribution to the United States she has received multiple awards for her philanthropic work including the Congressional Hispanic Caucus Institute the National Hispanic Leadership Institute the National Civil Rights Museum variety the mayor of Los Angeles and above all I should say Eva Longoria is a member of the UCLA GSD and is Centennial campaign steering committee thank you thank you Eva president and CEO of the California Community Foundation Antonia Mendez of course needs no introduction and needs no introduction at her home UCLA nationally recognized nationally recognized for her commitment towards the betterment of underserved communities in Los Angeles in Southern California and beyond Antonio Hernandez is president and chief executive officer of the California Community Foundation previously Antonia was president and general counsel of the Mexican American Legal defend defense and education falen MALDEF a national nonprofit litigation and advocacy organization dedicating to protecting the civil rights of our nation’s Latinos she serves on Commission’s advisory boards committees including the Commission on Presidential Debates at the Institute of Politics at Harvard University’s John F Kennedy School of Government the JFK Library Foundation profile and character were committee and the UCLA School of Law Board of Advisors Antonia thank you thank you for supporting this event thank you for your leadership thank you for your voice thank you for coming back home do UCLA padishah gandara they random of Education DSC and is Professor Gandara is a globally renowned scholar in the field of education she’s call director with one and only the truly incomparable Gary or field of the Civil Rights Project projector the richest Avila’s at UCLA I can safely say having been a faculty member at Harvard and UCLA that

the Civil Rights Project this be leading Civil Rights Project in the nation addressing the most fundamental issues in our society in the 21st century the project is dedicated to create a new generation of research in social science and law on critical issues of civil rights and equal opportunity for all racial and ethnic groups in the United States professor Garner as research centers on education equity and access for low-income and ethnic minority students language policy and the education of youth of Americans of Mexican origin gondola rides frequently on education for youth who speak English as a second language and on the education gap among Latinos she is a former bilingual school psychologist and director of education research for the California Assembly Wow um gendered am i cued i’m good locked this is going to be a very interesting conversation the world is being transformed and the world of education is being transformed by the forces of globalization when we think about globalization we think about new markets we think about new media we think about new migrations this is the fundamental challenge facing education in the 21st century in the 21st century we will need to educate all of California’s children to flourish in a world that is ever more interconnected miniaturized and fragile reframing k12 higher education for this 21st century is an imperative and California’s responsibility is to be at the forefront of this conversation to prepare all our citizens for a new global world Los Angeles is at the forefront of the demographic changes at the very center of globalization what we’re witnessing in California what were witnessing in Los Angeles foreshadows where the rest of the world is going just last month the Holy Father convened us at the Pontifical Academy of Sciences found that in 1606 to examine global migration in relations to the Holy Fathers concerned with poverty and education for all over 90 percent of the children that went to schools in LAUSD today are children of color but think of Amsterdam Rotterdam and the hague where two-thirds of the children that woke up this morning and went to schools come from non Dutch origin homes think of Milano recently the mayor of Milano introduced Mira and an event where 40% of the children in Milano come from non Italian homes just recently Karen and I were in Reggio media the city known the world over for the best preschool systems in the world 33% of the children in the richest schools today comes from non Italian homes the areas of the world are on Los Angeles making education work for all our children is a fundamental imperative given the demographic changes that we are witnessing that will change our world moving forward not all Latinas are immigrants eva is 11th generation many have been in California for generations and remember this Spanish was spoken in what is now the United States a hundred years before John Harvard sale for the Massachusetts Bay Colony Latinos are all Americans new Americans we’re double Americans if you want to be precise regardless of generation how do we build a culture of success for this demographic moving forward when 80% of our growth as a nation will now be via the children of Latinos and Latinas and we are the children of Asian and

mixed-race populations how do we ensure that all our children have the foundations they will need to thrive in the 21st century we are going to show a brief clip from a video part of the study conducted by Professor Gandara with the generous support of the Eva Longoria foundation the clip is only four minutes and it will be a point of entry into our exchange our conversation this afternoon It’s Showtime so today 25 million Latinas live in the US and more than eight million of them are younger than 18 and these women have extraordinary potential the far too many of them live in poverty and lack educational opportunity I started the Eva Longoria foundation to help Latinas access resources and opportunities to build better futures we focus on education because we know that getting a good education and graduating from college is life-altering and it is the single best way to break the cycle of poverty so I commissioned UCLA Civil Rights Project to study the factors which contribute to success for Latinas so we can better understand what makes the difference between dropping out of high school and graduating from college the young women profiled in this research some of whom are featured in this video all faced huge challenges in their lives some were undocumented most had parents with less than a high school education or were low-income and one had a child while in high school but they all found a way making friends with kids who knew how to get to college seeking guidance from teachers and counselors most had parents or family members who also encouraged them and believed in them and this was the critical difference between these women and some of their friends who didn’t finish high school or go on to college I didn’t need to be an astronaut because I love the spares and I wanted to go into space since then I kind of already had an interesting cars I started to kind of connect the dots and see where it could take me I think that’s when I started to get more interested in engineering something that’s always been my passion or that I’ve always wanted to do is work with special education hopefully have my Master’s by then and working as a counselor with children I really want to go into a lot of teaching the children with special needs in ten years I’ll be close to 32 and I will for sure have gone to grad school whether it’s masters or PhD I’m sure I will have that under my belt under my resume I will most likely be working I’ll have like a career and I think I will be financially supporting my parent this kind of belief in oneself that I do have possible carries a lot of young women through very challenging circumstances we’ve also seen that it is a real preventive early pregnancy because if a young woman believes there’s something out there for her and that she can achieve it is a powerful antidote to school failure much of the underachievement the loss of talent the under realization of uncial for these young is really tied to poverty and I think we have to face that growing up in poverty has tremendous cut for young people not just Latinos but it happens that Latinos are disproportionately growing up in poverty so no Factory she didn’t finish school and probably finish to third grade she’s been there working there almost 17 years almost so and that’s why she’s kind of been my inspiration to continue school it wasn’t at all her junior senior year that I started realizing that I because I was undocumented you know I wasn’t gonna have access to that financially it’s naive as in not really measuring you know how expensive colleges we had to go up to pawnshops and you know send our jewelry whatever I had you know for my

agency yeah get money to pay off tuition told me like you need to go to school you need to go call it about the menial jobs that they were like don’t don’t wake up at 4:00 and live this life like you can do thank you so much very moving clips Eva 175 years ago a young Charles Darwin in a furiously creative phase shut it down a forgotten note in one of the evolution notebooks quote educate all classes educate men educate women educate women improve the women and double the influence and mankind will thus improve Eva Longoria Charles Darwin yeah you’re in good company yeah so Eva you could be doing anything you want to do and you do a million things why why education why Latinas in education tell us well first of all thank you for having me here thank you for assembling this amazing panel I have to say the why is there’s so much Y as to what I do in my life and and three of the reasons were here today dolores huerta who really i I grew up with Dolores is leadership in books and so when I finally got to meet her I was like oh my gosh and she really introduced me to the world of farmworkers and then I met Antonio through Dolores and Antonia’s been a mentor of mine for a very long time and then one of my rock stars in my life that I was starstruck to meet was dr Gunther I thought I was I can have your autograph um and so you know I’ve been really blessed to have access to amazing role models and I find it started with my family I come from a family of educators my mother’s a special education teacher my sister’s a special education teacher might answer teachers and so I come from a family of educators that stress the importance of it and and also I’m like the underachiever of my favorite I’m the last person of my family to have gotten a master’s and so when I was getting my masters in Chicano Studies I realized there was a lot of white space in certain areas and one of them being Latino education there’s a lot of studies about Latino education comparatively to African Americans or Asians or whites but very few separated by gender in a specific ethnicity and so I knew there was a void there but I think you know the main reason I do the work that I do is because I really believe in our community I believe and I think why we’re all here is we we understand that the future success of the Latino community of the United States is dependent upon the Latino community and we’re the fastest growing demographic in the United States with the lowest education attainment and in California in New Mexico and in Texas where the majority of students and so there’s there’s a huge disconnect between educational demands and occupational demands and so the US economy is based on producing Talent the US economy’s is it’s important is relying upon our educational system to really produce educated and educated workforce and so I wanted to do a study that analyzed that system I there’s a lot of studies about students and that put fault on the students and put fault on the parents and put fault upon the culture and so a lot of those barriers and obstacles haven’t changed in the last 3040 years we know the obstacles and barriers and so I wanted to know the successes I wanted to know what is working why is one latina succeeding and the other one is not when they come from the same socioeconomic status or they come from the same ethnic background or the same neighborhood or the same high school and that’s why I commissioned this study it was because I want I want to create interventions and replicate those success factors within young women and why Latinas I get this all the time and I didn’t think it was going to be such a big deal that I did a study on specifically Latinas but you have to be specific when you do is study one I’m latina so it kind of makes them know but you know Latinos are the linchpin of our community and of the next generation for a community Latinas

you know a child’s educational outcome is highly correlated to her mother’s education and so if we’re gonna have any kind of successful intervention with the educational outcomes of our future generations in the Latino community in the Latino population we have got to make sure we educate these youths of the Latinas the women in our community and so that’s why I focus on it and I and I mean Latino uu men are fine no offense to men I just really want to be effective in the work that my my foundation does and that’s why we wanted to fund this study and that’s how I found dr. Bob Arum terrific thank you so much it’s interesting that you started with your three mentors because that exactly is what predicts one of the successful one of the most important factor that predicts the long term engagement and success of all students but I think specially Latino students is entering into a relational engagement with mentors and you discovered in academia that the world is divided between mentors and tor mentors mentors are the ones that make that make a difference and but they give us the the context for for the research what’s new what’s surprising what what is different today from when you were being educated in Los Angeles schools let me start with maybe what’s new and what we found in this study that maybe surprised us a little bit because there are a number of things that we know are effective across the board but we didn’t know how effective they were for Latinas and so this study gave us the opportunity to sort of dig in at that level and take a look a couple of the things that we found that were surprising to me actually and I’ve been doing this for quite a long time was one that having Latino teachers predicted for going to college that surprised me I could think of many reasons why we should have more Latino teachers but I didn’t know that there was this tight connection between having Latino teachers and ended up going to college for Latinas another one that we found which is I think a little bit surprising is that those Latinos who managed to maintain their bilingualism are more likely to go to college than those who do not think about that for a minute in the policy context of this state and this nation what’s different today then when I went to when I was in school I actually went through school in the LAUSD I had superb teachers went to excellent schools and I had access to a broad array of peers because the schools at that time were not so isolated we’re not so segregated and this state had invested heavily in its K through 12 system so I went to school in LAUSD in the Golden Age when the schools were well supported and when California was basically considered number one in the nation with respect to education that’s very very different today but they say you’re you’re bilingual piece is very very interesting and I think that this is a domain where there are now new findings that are truly changing the discourse on on bilinguals our colleagues in cognitive neuroscience now are very happy to report that in ways and in de new and in the ways that matter most in education the brains of bilinguals are different from the brains of monolingual and it is precisely the jewel in the crown of the neocortex is that the executive function is the metacognitive at the prospective taking capacities and qualities that are very much implicated in bilingualism I just want to add quickly if you if you think about our global competitive competitiveness in the future we’re the only country in the world that promotes monolingualism the only country everywhere else you see people speaking many languages and so that has to be correlated with where were ranked in education somebody once said we are a cementary for languages yes Japanese brought Japanese the Italians brought Italian the Germans brought German and all those languages have been safely there for some time we’ve had knowledge about the cognitive benefits and the psychosocial benefits and various other benefits but this morning I was reading

the introduction to a book that we’re going to release shortly that for the first time really ever shows that there are substantial economic benefits for both the individual and society thank you so much Antonia Antonia you are the CEO of one of most influential important foundations in California former president of Valdez tell us what are the synergies between philanthropy the foundations the legal community and universities to work together to support latina Latino students moving moving forward I think philanthropy is a perfect partner to just about every sector and every institution in the country and the reason for that is that philanthropy is what we call the venture capital of the social sector it is where you find limited resources to really invest and take risks and in doing inquiry such as this that really deals with issues that the private sector is not interested in or doesn’t have the cassadee’s so like the California Community Foundation many of the foundations have relationships with institutions of higher learning we have relationships with government with the public sector the city the county the federal government and we also have partnerships with the private sector our role is one of investing to improve the quality of life for mankind for humankind so for me this study and issues related to it fall right within what philanthropy is supposed to do but I wouldn’t go back to what was said about language and about Latinas and you know if I is eleventh generation I am the generation I am an immigrant from Mexico came as a child I had a and if you look at my childhood I had many of the poverty indicators what made the difference one a loving family secondly that family believing in me and in my siblings that we could do empty everything and anything we wanted to be and I didn’t go to a wonderful LAUSD school I went to a good LAUSD school I went to Garfield High School in East LA and I saw folks that I’m an east los girl okay and you know sometimes you can take the girl out of East LA but you can never take but instead of the girls in fact I was you know it’s going to tell Janet was a friend of mine prior to her current position and I’m feeling like I should be more over there I should be in here but I think you know that the most important thing and I was just reading a lot of literature including you that the report and let me tell you that if a child cannot read by the third grade that correlation of not graduating fight from high school and not going to college is absolute it is a one-to-one correlation and so investing the the issue is why invest in Latinas and and a lot of people think that the issue is a Latino issue it is no longer a Latino issue it is a societal issue and if this country does not invest in the education of Latinas and people of color we are going to go further down so I think that from an economic social standing perspective we need to really think about what latina says and my final note on philanthropy is and it’s it’s sort of a saying within philanthropy you give a dollar to a man and God knows what’s going to happen to it you give a dollar to a woman she will invest it in the health and education of her child and if you want to improve the quality of life for families you invest in women and if you look at philanthropy throughout the world I served on a Rockefeller Foundation for ten years a lot of the investment was in women in their health and families and I think that is incumbent upon us Latinas to understand and take control of our life in our destiny and seek the education that we want and that we deserve president Napolitano thank you thank you

for for joining us help us think through the California paradox thank you so much thank you for your comment thank you for your comments this is epic they thank you so thank you so much thank you so much for your thank you so much for your thank you so much for your for intervention thank you so much for your intervention may it may I please please please this is a topic that is very important to many of us we have written we have written extensively on this topic thank you so much for your thank you so much thank you so much for your comments I’m going to ask one of the UCLA students to please this these are very important topics we have written extensively for the paper but professor grant era we have written extensively a Corolla has written extensively about decisions these are very important issues but let’s be respectful let’s be respectful and go back to our conversation for the research conducted by Professor gandara the research sponsored by base langoria police we understand this is a very important topic please thank you so much they thank you so much thank you so much thank you thank you so much I think better but you don’t know yeah you know it’s not the first time I’ve had this experience and I think what it reveals are two things what is our country right now is in the midst of an another great wave of migration with a law that doesn’t match the economic or moral reality of the country that we have and that weight is falling primarily on the Latino community and so there’s anger and frustration and I’m not here to talk about you know what it’s like to enforce a law as you seek to improve it that’s a different discussion and when students are ready to listen I’ll be ready to discuss with students that position but what I am very interested in why it came today was to be with my colleagues and discuss how it is that the best public research university in the country still budget cuts aside the bones are still very good how it is that it builds an active and robust bridge to Latinas because it that is going to be necessary for the university to the thrive and for the state to thrive and so when you read the research you say well there are some things that are indicators the mentors the mothers I was thinking about is the 3ms the mentors the mothers and math and you know there are certain things in there okay well that tells you where interventions really could be helpful and whether the you see in our efforts really should be directed what else makes a difference for Latinas sense of community a sense of belonging when you go to a campus are we really doing all we can at every campus to make sure that Latinas feel they have support and that they have an environment in which they are encouraged I could thrive I know we do a lot but are we doing enough and are we doing it in the right way extracurricular activities that was a key indicator I mean it’s it’s being out there it’s it’s being involved on something other than just going to class

and and so forth well what kinds of things do we offer the study talks about you know how different social events are either more welcoming or not in the sense of the cultural things that they are portraying so when I think about the University of California when I think about Latinas I think there’s a great unity of purpose here right to provide world-class education to this generation of Latinas which is leading this wave of migration into the United States the great historic wave that we are in and there are lots of pieces to that but it is something that only California can do but it helped us with that in a way you know we’re facing Latinos our immigrants were also non immigrants we’ve talked about that how do we make how do we in a generation give all our immigrants all our children Latinos Latinas the tools they’re going to need a hundred years ago when the country was being transformed by that gigantic wave of migration it took time it took maybe two generations for the Irish for the Italians for the Eastern Europeans really get into that great mobility elevator that was the US economy mm-hmm during those during those during those years today we live in a very different world we don’t have two or three generations to wait how do we present Napolitano how do we reimagine reinvent the social contract can’t contract when the generations really look so different you were governor of the state of Arizona Arizona has the greatest gap in terms of the new folk and the the older folk you know all the students now are Latino very few how do we rethink how do we reimagine that contract in a great state like the state of California well I think and I’d be interested in what everybody here thinks I think it begins with the public education system and I think it begins with early pre-k and kindergarten because what I saw when I was governor and I see now is that has the greatest potential and in Arizona when I was governor we we passed full-day kindergarten free for every child my successor took it away but we had for a few golden years there we had all-day kindergarten and we passed an initiative for early pre-k and and that well really over the next decade or so show great promise the second thing we can do though I’m going to go to the other end of the scale is really focus on our Latinas in high school so they go to college because the predictor of economic success in the United States is going to be that college degree and so we need to be doing interventions calculated then so those students those young women feel not only qualified but excited and incentivize and mentored and they’re ready to go and I want to add to that because a lot of researchers referred to it as the pipeline problem and and what happens in the educational pipeline let the Latino community as a whole is a very aspirational group very aspirational they want to go to we want to go to a college we do want a good job we want a good career so what happens from that moment to not graduating high school which is the metric of success or the metric we use and not going on to college that means the system is failing them because if they have hope and they have aspirations to do better and they have a desire to want to have some sort of economic mobility outside of what their parents had theirs I think policymakers have to understand the cumulative effects that happen in primary and secondary and what is happening there that affects them not going to college or affects them in college or affects us not being prepared for college or affects us being over-indexing and community colleges there’s a it’s just a domino effect that happens success q yeah this very short video is the cost we mentioned that the fact is the majority unfortunately of the Latino community is support community when I went to UCLA and started here in 1969 there was no tuition when I started law school in 1971 I paid eighty seven dollar fee and

it was a student fee my daughter went to law school three years ago graduate and thank God she graduated she started at 14 K a year and ended up at 40 ter year in three years you know of the few that make it through that funnel the very few that make it through the fun what was the theme that you heard there unaffordable those that go to college have a tremendous debt and many of them could go to a four university end up at a community college because they cannot afford it so you know in addition to all of the other stuff we have to talk about I mean you know the UCS are a fabulous jewel for California I’m a proud product of it but how many Latinos can afford it today and I think we have to deal with a lot of the issues but for those who make it we have to deal with the issue of affordability the higher education system in this state was built on there was a social contract between the people of California and the notion that you were going to have this accessible affordable one place higher education system and that is what propelled California to the success it has had as a state the dynamic economy that it’s had in the innovation they create and the creativity and so forth however I would make one point and that is if your family made $80,000 a year or less when you were getting ready to go to college where they did today you would pay no tuition University of California is free the families under 80k and it’s about half of the full tuition sticker for people who make up to 150 came so we need to by people having not we’re not doing a good job getting the complete information out and by not having complete information out we are disempowering young women to make good choices about what classes to take and what their ambitions ought to be that’s on us we need to get get that out and we need to do even more because as you know it’s not just tuition it’s room and it’s board and it’s fees and those have gone through this that’s forgotten income if your family is poor yeah and the other and the other thing and there was an article this week and I hate to pound on this but there was an article this week that is very profound and that is we never talk about economic status at universities and it’s just not tuition and it’s not just room and board but you know if you don’t have the money for the books if you don’t have the money you know that other people have when you go to the East Coast for school and you can’t afford to come home for Thanksgiving or Christmas we need to talk about the challenges that poor kids and it’s not that there’s an answer to everything but we need to acknowledge the challenges and talk about them because I’ve in many other Latinos and latinas they do go to higher education many of them drop out and it’s not because of academics it’s because of the social lack of inclusiveness so I think we need to carry that I think it would change direction a little bit I’m going to come back to to a I think an issue that IVA brought up and that’s the issue of stem and the issue of this California paradox we have higher than average unemployment in our state yet there are hundreds of thousands of unfilled jobs especially in the high tech especially in the stem domain so the question perhaps president about the donor you can comment on this you spoke about immigration we can we can do we can we can continue to bring highly educated immigrants to the United States something we’re doing that is what’s new and different in this wave of immigration by the way compared to the previous wave of immigration the number of highly skilled highly educated people that are coming to our country year after year from India from China or are we going to invest in the children of immigrants that are our children already in in in California three actionable things you made an announcement about offering financial aid for dreamers and you can you elaborate on this and can you help us think through the balance here between continuing to import high-level human

capital from overseas versus fundamentally changing the conversation in our country and growing our own scientists and engineers and and scholars and doctors and nurses usually exclusive I think you do both I mean I think the United States ought to be the brain center of the world and we can do it through immigration policy and education policy and social policy but there are a lot of ways to do it but I you know the plain fact of the matter is and it goes yes what I said earlier if you don’t have a good public education system if that part of the social compact is not working it is really hard to see how everything else works in the United States particularly where stem is concerned so that investment in public education is key and that’s a pipeline issue from the beginning to the end and then with respect to immigration really one of the greatest failures of the current system is we we educate lots of masters and PhD students in the STEM fields and then they’re not allowed to stay in the country and they they go back back to their country of origin and start a competitor company and that makes about as much sense as many of the other things I’ve seen come out of Washington DC so I mean that could be fixed these are fixable things but they need to be fixed and address that social connection though between education and future and empowerment that that is a much more basic discussion it’s fundamental the great John Dewey wrote that book on the nexus between education and acidic society and a democracy that flourishes the fundamental idea of education was the idea of the flourish ment and the civic engagement of citizens today we talk a lot about the piece today they are going to be released tomorrow the data for the our current are now going to look good and the story really is a story about engagement it’s about civic it’s about the flourishing of human potential it’s in the voices of these young women who are so full of life and so full of a future that they’re just ready to embrace and and to take on I want to turn to – Antonia – Eva and and do Patricia to speak in a more kind of out of biographical voice growing up growing up latina the challenges you faced clearly you update all the averages and and here you are all icons in your domains and in your fields talk about talk about that well you know I’ve already started speaking about that and you know like I said it’s um I’m the oldest of seven all of my brothers and sisters went to college and in fact I’m proud to say that my sister Mesa was in the audience it’s a PhD student here at UCLA in the School of Education but you know it really goes back to an issue that hasn’t been brought up I came to this country and I was taught to be proud to be a Mexican no better no worse better proud to be a Mexican and I was taught in my parents to this day well I don’t do it as much but when I was in mold if they would complain that I was becoming a pork chop hmm what okay when I interviewed in Spanish the mastaba viajando les Spaniard but the Spanish was critical cuz I went to school in Mexico for the first three years when I came here I knew how to read and write and one of the findings here in the study are very very true math is a universal language I could add I could subtract I thought I was a genius and math because I understood that and that was one of the indicators that allow me to move forward of course when I got to trig I got a D and that was the end of my stem career but but but it was so important because it really really sort of reinforced the fact that I had a language that I was proud of an ability to do math and I remember my only one Latino teacher mr Panetta in the sixth grade and you talk about validation he said it’s okay if you bring your burrito instead of your bologna sandwich and he would tell me best Anya’s labora ven aqui you know that was a funny thing but the thing is that he validated who I was in the language that I understood

and therefore I saw him and I said I can be a teacher like mr. Pierre and I am a teacher of course I never taught this I would have killed all the kids I’m a teacher okay because that would and that was the other thing you cannot dream of what you do not know and that’s the problem with our kids living in an isolated community they cannot drink what they do not know you either in my generation were a nurse a teacher or a secretary and I went wrong because I became a lawyer okay but that was the expectation of a girl and we have to also talk about the stereotypes and the cultural inhibition within our culture and mothers have to push their daughters to be anything they want to be the rokkes are get that baloney validation language identity isn’t missing that you bring that up Antonia because having my appearance that I have looking kind of white you know my mother always worried that people wouldn’t know I was making Emma and so she told me from a very young age if they try to say you’re anything else you tell them you’re Mexican and so I grew up with this to that this is a good thing I think that’s what they’re telling me but my experience I think what was tremendously important in my life was being able I went to Dorsey high school by the way which you know some of you are probably familiar with it was a fabulous school when I went to it but I had access to peers that were able to show me the steps to go to college because in my family nobody ever graduated high school and in fact my brother dropped out in the ninth grade he was primarily Spanish speaker and there was nothing there for him so it wasn’t going to come from home but I was fortunate to have to not go to an isolated school the way most Latinos do today in this region to schools that are just very very heavily Latino in which they have very little contact with the mainstream I had contact with other peers and in fact it was the mother of a friend who said to me one day I bet here you’re smart you’re going to go to college let’s take you to go see a college it was the only college I had ever seen I was getting ready to graduate and so it was the only college to which I apply thank god they accepted me I didn’t know that there was the possibility that they wouldn’t UCSB yeah Santa Barbara however I did end up graduating from this countless now so that that goes back to my deep concerns about the segregation and the isolation of our schools and that we simply must do something I have some ideas about what those things are but we must do something about breaking now that isolation and exposing our young people Latinas to the mainstream what’s out there because as I’m Tanya says you can’t dream what you don’t know yeah my childhood was funny because I’m a Texan so I lived I lived in the in the country of Texas we don’t think anything exists outside of Texas I remember when I went to get my masters for being Chicano stories I was like what is the Chicano cuz I’ve never heard of that but you know I grew up in Texas you close to the border and it was back then it was so easy to cross we would cross for lunch and we’d come back when we cross and go get medicine and we’d come back and and I remember we would when we were coming back from the Mexican side my dad said don’t forget to say your US citizen and every time don’t what are you gonna say and I said US citizen and I would say the long line and I didn’t understand why we went in the short line and and I was really little I remember going I thought it was a magic password you know like and I thought that that long line just didn’t know the password and that I did and so I just remember US citizen wood was the magic word so I grew up with that identity was I was a US citizen and then in in third grade and I didn’t speak Spanish and in third grade I tested out of my school I don’t know how and I don’t know when I took the test but I was so upset because I passed it I had to go to another school and I was devastated to go to this gifted and talented school because none of my friends were there all my friends were in my neighborhood I wanted

to go to that my neighborhood school I had to be bussed to the other school I didn’t know why and I remember getting on the bus with my bean taco and everybody with a pop-tart and I was like I was like oh my god and they were like what is that and I was like you guys don’t eat bean taco like and I was like oh my god I’m the Mexican you know like I was like I’m not I’m not the Mexican I I didn’t understand that until I went to this all-white school in a very rich neighborhood because they tested into it and then I’ve moved to Hollywood you knows many years later and I moved to Hollywood and I and it was when the Latin explosion happened like 20 years ago and I was like I’m latina and they were like great do you speak Spanish and I was like no and then they were like okay can you do a Spanish accent you know and I was like oh no I I don’t have an accent so I wasn’t ly bounced in between Mexican American where I was I was not Mexican enough and then I was too Mexican for thing for my school and then again I wasn’t Mexican enough and so that’s why I you know in college I learned how to speak Spanish and and I learned French and I learned I mean I I loved languages and I said well maybe I should learn Spanish because everybody keeps criticizing me that I don’t so I’ve always straddled that – wonderfully I actually like having one foot in both cultures and and my parents always telling me never forget where you came from and as I’ve gotten older really staying tied to to my community and my heritage and I feel like that’s one thing I always tell young young kids is you know hold on to your heritage and learn learn Spanish or hold on to Spanish because it’s it’s economically you know beneficial balancing the act in the – mm-hm you choose you lose there are certain advantages to having the duality of identities the kinds of meta perspectives it gives you looking at the world through two cultural lenses multiple cultural lenses I think in the global moment the dualities that come with language with identities with living in the – will be such an asset in all domains from from business to security to the cognitive and the interpersonal the joy of engage in the world in in different terms what do you see each from your own perspective what is the most important contribution your sector can make today to better the educational outcomes of Latinos if you had one or two interventions you’ve been you’ve seen the world of philanthropy Antonia well I will speak to what we’re doing here at the California Community Foundation and I have here Peter Rivera who’s our education program officer and Nikki Ervin thanks for coming Peter who runs the programs and we focus on education for through fifth grade or you know because we think that that is so critical that is the foundation in addition to that we are the largest scholarship holders in in in I think in the state of California we give out about three million dollars in scholarship a year we hold over eighty million dollars in scholarship funds and to me that’s the most important thing sort of from the bottom up and that is making sure that you know we have the funnel and then once they get there to support them with financial support so to me the most important thing is birth through fifth grade if you can capture them then then you can have a whole bunch of other interventions as they move through the funnel but if you don’t have that foundation you we’re going to be the majority but we’re going to be poor in numbers and that’s just about it well I think I’ll get at it from the other end of the spectrum but I think in reading Patricio your work and in others works we need to be out reaching into the high schools we need to make sure that Latinas know you know that they had this opportunity to go and what they need to do to prepare and then we need

to do everything we can to fight to keep tuition as low as we can keep it we need to do everything we can to keep Latinas in school make sure they get that baccalaureate and their graduate degree if they want one and we need to make sure that we have created a community in which they feel that they they I mean it’s about them my you know one great thing and the reason I focus on education and and I agree with with you guys when you say you know early education early education but education has several points of intervention and so like me when I got my master’s close to 40 like it’s never too late and that’s one thing I get we have to get the kids early and let’s make sure they graduating but it’s never too late and so there’s never a point where you’re completely lost we’ve lost them when it’s done no no and that’s why I love about education is there several points where in which we can intervene and and that’s you know the work that we do at the foundation one of the things that was super critical for in your story and in my story and your story was our parents and there’s been a lot of studies about parental involvement parental engagement and and how is that defined you know Mexico just changed their law defining education from kids must go to school to kids must learn in school and just that change changes the entire effort and mission of what it means to get an education so I find parental engagement and involve is the same thing sometimes parents go I am involved I dropped my kid off at school and you go no no no you know that engagement doesn’t stop at the door also a lot of times parents don’t feel like that their school belongs to them public schools are government schools they’re not very your schools you run those public schools that’s your domain you know you know at the foundation we sponsor an amazing program called PK the parental Institute for quality education which provides a nine-week course for parents to understand how to navigate the educational system how to read a transcript what is a curriculum what classes are your kids taking what rights do you have as a parent you have a right to go to the teacher you have a right to go to the principal and demand that your kids take a different math class why isn’t my child learning what is my child learning how can I be involved and so this program is is a you know been truly effective with parents and parents who take this program ninety percent of the chill their children graduate high school which is a greater improvement than 60 percent graduating so parental involvement but what does that mean and this course helped helps him understand how how can I be involved from where I stood as an academic and a researcher I think often times people think of how J’s their just up in an ivory tower they don’t have anything to do with the real world but in fact that’s not the way we view it and at the Civil Rights Project we have a motto we don’t do harmless research so I think it’s really critically important for academics like ourselves to take on the unpopular things the thing you know you can get a lot of money actually if you don’t know about this you can get a lot of money to do research in certain areas that are popular you know people want to fund certain kinds of things they don’t want to fund usually they don’t want to fund the things that we do around civil rights but I think it’s really critically important for us to really adhere to those principles and to do the unpopular research the ones where you’ve got to scrape together the nickels and the pennies in order to get it done but that can really have an impact the community we can provide the evidence we can provide the ammunition for folks in the community to go out and create change and you know I think of one example we have been working toilet away toiling away for years around the issue of bilingual instruction what people gave up on this a long time ago they said well they changed the law there’s no more bilingual education what are you guys doing you know wasting time we now have a whole body of research that says this is what we should be doing so we’re gonna have better outcomes but if we hadn’t kept out the same unpopular topic we wouldn’t have that evidence today so I challenge myself ourselves and folks in the academic community to stay on these issues that are so critical to the community we have enormous talent we

have enormous wisdom what advice would you hear we have two two Bruins through and through what advice would you give the young Antonian and is the young but did he say again that are entering UCLA next next fall what’s the best advice I say prepare for college I say prepare for career I say prepare for the world well I talked to a lot of young students going to college and what I tell them is own the University own it it’s yours partake and everything the university has to offer you know get it’s sort of for a lot of poor people going into for me and UCLA was a whole different world and I’m exceedingly curious and so Tamiya was discovering this world a lot of Latinos isolate themselves and Latinas didn’t yellow they don’t wanna go talk to the teacher portlet en el miedo they’re yours you know your tax dollars paid for those teachers okay join the clubs you know it just explore don’t isolate yourself because the connections and the friends that you make when you go whatever college or university you go to there gonna be your lifelong friends my professors at the law school are still my sociable friends and and they’re so important so own the university take it for what it’s worth and you are not only going to be educated in the classroom half of the education happens outside the classroom make it yours make friendships yes president nobody’s not know what piece of advice I would say own it and invest in yourself in it there are no shortcuts to learning and you know the cliche is you get out of it what you put into it but in any educational endeavor that indeed is is true so own it and invest in yourself in it god I would I would tell any young latina study stem study stem like in the public blub public speaking theater whatever study stem any kind of stem afield it’s always really nice damn if you want a great job for every three jobs of stem out there today there’s only one person to fill it and for every you know every one job available in other sectors there’s three people waiting to fill it so if you want you know if you want to invest in the future of this country and how we’re advancing in technology and in the world pick a stem field and the other thing is educate yourself about what stem is because a lot of people go I don’t wanna be a scientist and I want to be an engineer and I want to be a mathematician no no no no no there are so many other things under that umbrella so many exciting wonderful fun things in that world and I wish I had known more about that world thinking back maybe I wouldn’t become an actor but bitties here the the great core pillar is war his has a beautiful short story were bored his as a 60 year old meets the young boy is as an 18 year old and they have a conversation so have that conversation what would you tell the young that is interesting because I think that what I conjure in my mind really reflects what’s just occurred before I have to comment about Antonius you know own it you don’t know how many times I’m Dona I give these lectures to the students who come to my office the Latino students who come you know ask me well I know that you’re really busy and I know you know it might not be possible but could you you know it takes 15 minutes to get it out of them they’re asking me for a letter or something the middle class students you have grown up middle class they walk in open the door tell me what they need and they’re in and out of there and I continually tell the Latino students it’s my job you don’t have to feel like you’re asking a big favor it’s my job to do this you need to know that when you go in and you and you talk to a faculty member but I guess what what I would say is be open to the possibilities because as you said you can’t dream what you don’t know when

I arrived at college I had no idea I mean I I’ve never been on a campus or fluoride I had no idea what the possibilities were and I found every quarter was a new exciting thing oh my god I could be this I changed my major you know like I changed my underwear it was like I know a new major today be open to the possibilities because there are true as you point out I think most Latinas don’t think about a career in stem you know this has never occurred to them stay open thank you so much thank you for such a wonderful inspirational set of interventions Darwin was of course right enormous ly educated women improving the world changing the world thank you thank you Eva Thank You brethren somebody dunno Thank You Antonia and thank you but Alicia for bringing together in this conversation