Panel Discussion of "The Invention of the Jewish Gaucho"

my name is Alejandro Canada and a director of a Latin American Studies Center and I’m very pleased to be here to introduce and coordinate that is coordinated discussion over to be safe a book this is our last event this year saw is in a way is like a finger gesture so I’m gonna introduce a those of you who don’t think over wooden about it when you said you need a frightened person first she’s gonna make a short comment in regard to her book and then I will no use each other we contacted would make brief comments and then i will open a a question and answer period so for all of you to make comments questions over all right so you deep-fried number is enjoying the department of anthropology in 90 95 here at the university of maryland and she previously had joint appointments at the city university of new york and then undead at the Mount Sinai School of Medicine and center for urban research it were research on the medical anthropology in community development of a neighborhood culminated in the anthropology of low-income urban enclaves the case of is Harley which water published in 1995 and also another publication drunk growing all in value published by New York University Press the Chaffee are in two thousand years of us a scare for cami but I don’t think it is already all right have her interest in reaching community group service providers and policymakers led her to curate a bilingual exhibited no graphic and photographic explorations of the Spanish Harlan displayed in New your own Mexico City since arriving on campus she has been affiliated with a Center for Latin American Studies Centre on a key the Department of American Studies on the Department of women’s studies currently she’s researching health care and employment needs of Latin American immigrant retirees in Langley Park very close to campus where she coordinates the network for Latino research to foster research on social issues affecting local immigrant populations in a front Latin America she has also taught as a Fulbright Scholar in her hometown when Cyrus re thank you thank you for being here the course of the book and so I just want to make a few comments to share with you why I think I wrote book I’ve always had on research interest to try to understand the dual role of history and collective memory particularly Elizabeth saloon ethnographic methods to understand migration and also very interested in figuring out how studying at the local level how to understand global population movements how studying immigration at the local level helps understand within this focus on locality of being very interested in seeing the intersection of ethnicity social class national origin in the social construction of alternative versions of the past and so just to sum it up for me the study of integration provides a very good entry to understand or reflect discourses of the nation and try to understand various interpretations of what nation so here I was thinking of all these interests and where would be a good place for you to go on during an upcoming semester sabbatical and i accompanied my mother on a tour cultural tourism tour to the to take tourists visitors to the center of the province of entering us to understand

what was left the agrarian colonization program that had brought many Eastern European Jews to rural Argentina and so there’s a lot of this as a nice trip to take together and she kept talking during the trip about how in one of the sites that we were going to visit some big audio there would be no doubt that we will distinguish her grandparents home because the house look like this and like that and is surrounded by trees and so on and just to make a long story short she was born in the province of impervious where this house was but when we got to this site that was nothing and this happened almost no evidence of house no evidence of the trees and this happens in many other sites that we visited during that tour so I got very interested in figuring out how the memories of the past our memories reconstruct the past but I’m not validated by the presence and how to i started thinking about choosing a one of the places that were taken to this door as a field site to spend the semester here and I ended up choosing michelada which was because it was relatively small but 3,500 inhabitants then and also because it’s different from other sites in the tour it had a white diversity of social class ethnicity national origin national origin of grandparents because there were descendants of immigrants from Eastern Europe and from Western moreover during our visits there I understood how i could see I could sense how people had a very good hold on their own history at the time of our visit they were planning for the first centennial of the village and everybody was organizing interested in figuring out what they were displaying in this in this performance so I set it to reconstruct the history of the village by living there for a semester and trying to understand how the villagers themselves understood the history of the village link that together with archival information and also you know whatever I could grab people were suspicious of me and the two students that went with Lena first one descendant of German immigrants thought what we had been sent because we were coming from this United States we have been sent by the sea other people kept saying why us you know what why would you be interested in this remote village who cares and but eventually by living there I made friends I got mine stakes and the same friends and everybody else and so they were interested in having a book written but they were not very sure that they were aligned with me and the kind of smaller divorce that I had to promise the powers that be here for a sabbatical semester students so what I ended up doing is this book memorials of Nevada in Spanish which had this heavily in illustrated and which was a way to help the reopens Museum in the village to tell its stories and and help them to get funding because during my stay there the mayor approached me to help praying no sense for the museum and I could see that they had no funding and so I thought well how about telling the story of the village first with lots of pictures putting together everybody’s in recently and selling this together with pictures of material culture in the museum as a white face laughing and this is still being sold there and at the Museum and brings money and then some other people asked about the other book

and that took me into writing this book in English and thanks to a very good Argentine historian and and collaborator adhesive employee I could collaborate in the translation of the book that appeared a few months ago and right so the first day commentator is going to be louder and then idea she’s an associate professor in the Spanish department and she we see her and a cat and a drag with degree at the University na de Cordoba Argentina her PhD from Washington University in st. Louis her research resource explored the complex ways in with the nineteenth centuries greens fried in contemporary Southern Cone literature on concentrate primarily in Argentina she has published articles on nineteenth and twentieth century in American literature in prayer and she in refereed journals and she’s also the author of arc in penis Ricardo ppl yellow bukola Hannah Senter fantasy attend a discontinuity publishing velocities in 1999 and cruises the Carlo de Cordova 2008 a collection of short stories her coloring book yo no sé de las Tia’s mulattos para PES our map will be published this year in my theater if fe turbo decoder and Argentina love thank you so much but i would like to thank yours your book I felt completely identify with that small and the stories that circulates and all the different people in the town can can talk about but i would like to start with the title and I’m not a historian I should say that I’m not a historian and I’m not an anthropologist I’m not an ethnographic leader but I am a literary person I am somebody that that’s culture steady and I would like to start quoting Austin who has a brilliant book that is at how to do things with words and what I would like to propose the reason that I would like to propose up to this book is how to do things with books and in a way I’m now going to summarize for book I will invite you to read it because it it’s a wonderful introduction to something that is not one of sizes and so besides that what I would like to talk about a little bit is like a different points my first point is the title the concept of invention and this is not the only book that we the has entitled lately as invention we have legal chambray the invention of Argentina the lacunae board the invention of Paradiso but yo McCrory serves a touch late mentioned apparently phone instead your device and each one of them and also the invention of the jewish cultures inscribe a crossroad and it in a deep relationship between the process of narration and the construction of an identical the process of narrating constructing text even oral text and the process of inventing a culture and or to say in a different way the process of inventing is a process of narrating or in order to evade invent we need to narrate and when you open this book what your time is that you’re going to find a multiplicity of voices of stories and that’s what I would like to stress the the amount of different perspective and the mayor of voices that Judy I am the descendant and the historians and the majors and everyone and the archive covers a body and you can you can even touch the voices you can even construct an a road between the different stories and that road between the different stories is

basically what construct the identity what construct in your brother what goes from the origins to today so there will be my first big point they mention my second point is the construction of contact songs and there are a variety of contact zones like that I saw escribe in this book the first one is the methodology this is a text that is constructed by a multidisciplinary perspective and you can find history you can find an ethnographic report the interviews you have the fieldwork you have the informants demographic the local history the newspaper the manuscript the personal memories the Latin history and all of this is what construct pain fence the story of issaquah des and I don’t think that it would be possible to construct the complexity of basic lada without the complexity of all the disciplines that help should it recreate these space the second contact zone is Misha Clara as a metaphor argentina vision clara is a small town in the middle of and revenues a province away from when assignments and decide that because of that is a perfect place to start reading the history of argentina the process of modernity and with the construction of the country as a possibility as an entropion place and the reality of that history and at the same time how that the narrative progress the narrative of dreams got squished and went into a process of decadence get up there honest you will see the thing so and this aclara has that that centrality that in a way moves beyond one of silence as the center of how to erase Argentinian identity and that gesture of sbr they Argentinian identity from 10 sizes to the countryside to if you want to call a marginal pound for me is precisely what gives this defect the capacity of showing another way of writing or constructing or inventing the national identity and I’m not going to deal with all the Colonials and the process of the different how colonia claddagh when became a town with a cloud on how the town became the cultural tourism place where where she went because I some of you will touch but then the third contact zone that I would like to address is the content of the Jewish goucher and the Jewish clown show is it’s a hybrid and it’s a perfect place to show how transliteration takes place not only in Argentina but also in a different place it places and it would be a common place for me would be to go to culture long and start reading Julie’s in relation to cultural go to move and and she does that and I’m not going to go into that into that BTW because there are two special needs of her tune up in the room and I don’t feel comfortable but I what I’m going to do is I’m going to use the Gaucho coolios and use what this is multiplicity of issues that are inside here in order to create or do something with sport or create a new invention with this book and he’s to establish a

relationship between the invention of the jewish culture and muscled up center that academia and why do I say that there’s a cold there’s a close relationship between these two texts because what I wanted to invent how I want to visualize a tuning in Bishop weather is as junior in muscle of sending this detective is narrator that travels and walked through the town and by walking narrates the city and by walking she narrates the town and by walking she encounters the voiceless and she encounters the museum in both texts at the center there is a museum in the regolith area inside the museum there’s a machine and now raised voices that multiplies the voices and those voices renovate reinvent the story of Argentinian and movie safada what in what judy does is to become Elena and then is the name of the machine in that without sin and I imagine Judeans black / Elena a since at this machine that propagates the voices that are there that are circulating that are constructing storing these amis the official story that the museum tries to try to produce and delete in more and one on one occasion said that a museum in a way conspire a limited and a reduced version of the plurality of the complexity of that my grams of subject and in order to incorporate this complexity of this reality she needed to talk to the descendants so in a way Misha Clara becomes the museum not because Bishop Radha has a museum but because of the voices the deep voices and they collectively novice and practice their culture every single day invent new traditions and invent new stories so as I said the invention is a narrative and the narrative the inventions and in this way the stories of the Jewish culture does not belong to her past that strategy predation that we constantly add to contain them green erase and rewrite and we think in the present so my invention is to see Judy a Selena writing and propagating the stories of a small town that lets us think against the grey the construction of russian tea thank you know the next second data is a appreciation image he came to the University of Maryland in 1993 and currently is professor and chair of the department of sociology he is a comparative and historical sociologist in one and one line of research he studies different dimensions of global inequality for example between countries within countries on between men and women and a second line of research focuses on social movements particularly Latin America using a world systems approaches recent work has examined the interaction between globalization inequality and structural adjustment policies as well as patterns of response on participation by civil society to free trade agreements in his latest book is called unveiling inequality a world historical perspective and was published in 2009 first of all I want to thank Alejandra making a pinko I recommend that all vida it’s seldom encounters very serious studies interior or these great contribution with the book I was struggling trying to

figure out exactly what to do in the time another so i also have three points I once had a professor who told me he always has 31 I said why I said because twisted you for Easter so the first on any needing is like a 63 points and with each of these points I in without question for further discussion Judith so the first area is on the co-construction of identities I think that the book is a very productive in exploring come memory shaped by attention between an official story and what Judith called Carrie code from the book a latent history based on memory and disseminated orally rarely written or accounted for in private documents and it’s these sources is laden history that the children has been able to touch with her very careful at non-traffic research if for example what is the meaning or some of these at ten categories how they change over time i knitted it complex enough to try to reconstruct the changing meaning of these terms in official documents is much more complex on one tries to uncover these kid in dimension that Judith focuses on in people so again these identities are extremely complex but Judy’s boobs suggest that this complexity can be drawn out by tapping into what I think James Scott will call the hidden hidden transfers exploring these complexities important because this in what do the cost social memory is interred point with social hierarchies and power and exploring the social memory and give us insights not only into the characteristics of hierarchies the organization of power but also the discourses and cultural representations that serve to either legitimate those structures those both social hierarchies or even to challenge those social hierarchies some instances so regarding this point I hope that maybe can tells us a little bit more about the process through which she gained the level of trust that is required in order to gain access to these hidden transcripts as you were mentioning before people often do not share these willingly and they these these hidden transcripts are often also very conflictual in their alternative interpretation or facial stories so I think you will be interesting to people expand a little bit on that point the second issue is the way in which book deals with cycles of innovation and collapse or home and passed my own work focuses quite a bit on these notion of cycles and i used the joseph schumpeter expulsion of creative destruction what effect to characterize the nature of these cycles so what I find very striking in the book is that in the social memory that is reconstructed by Judith and then it is a clearly linked to these cycles know if the DVD cycle of a expansion in relating a late 19th century early 20th century was accompanied by one set of cultural identity is a there is a very thorough transformation of these identities with the collapse of the technasia of late latter part so there are many metaphors hope the deal with these notion of cycles he clearly declaring itself go through such a sight others are very rapid economic expansion centered around agriculture in late 19th century and early 20th century but then as I said before Thursday’s economic stagnation that setting in the late 20th century it is these disciples also evident in the trajectory of the railroad why did he leave the arrival of the railroad in the late 19th century early 20th century coincides with an initial cycle economic expansion of nurturing facilitated that cycle expansion because you can be declared or

markets and then later in the 20th century the closing down of the railroad from the associated and further defense of bicha Clara and it’s clear God if one doesn’t need to know much about Argentina in order to know that these cycles that she strikes or are we to send a table from national woman passed but the book also shows the recycled woman basket very unequal impacts on different social groups for example the migrants of the late nineteen eleven t20 century but much of the book focuses on clearly benefited from the expansion of the twentieth century but many of these initial microns or at least their descendants lead didja clara before the economic stagnation sets em and it’s a very big very different group social groups that are most affected by the crisis of the late twentieth century I think the again the book is very productive ensuring the many different ways in which these social memory reconstructs these events and and for example the images of ethnicity are often mobilized either to legitimate the success of one group or to explain away the failure of other groups to reach the same standards of economic social mobility and so forth but these arguments can be difficult to take I imagine in rejecting itself I think it would be interesting if you talk a little bit about what a reception was particularly in regards to the many ways in which you’re a pound these contending identities a contradicts the official and then the final point is about civil society civil society new boat appears to follow parallel trajectories to the dynamic cycles of the book shows a very clearly the importance of civil society during this period of at the expansion of my density late 19th century most obviously when he Jewish colonization Association very crucial role in facilitating migration to it reveals a beginning the late 19th century but also your account of each aclara is full these examples of this thriving civil society with Society for main block develop in us and houses of worship community center social club and so forth and I think the this is a striking characteristic of Argentina as a whole that in many instances the very explosive expansion of markets century was accompanied by a at least in relative terms an absence of the state and a much greater presence along side with the market or civil society and the book seems to incinerate their ad doesn’t tackle this issue directly but there seem to be also somewhat a collapse of those seven society organizations who make a CD which would fit so Robert economic collapse and then perhaps here you could talk a little bit more of bodies the shape of civil society in today like I said it is a great book and I learned a lot not just about reach a clerical how to think about this project processes the final commentator is a Marcia Rossum bleep it who is the Harvey my a professor of modern English history and she Martha is a social historian of a deuce in Central Europe she is the author of the use of Vienna and in 1867 1914 assimilation and identity publishing 1983 and reconstructing a national identity they use of Habsburg Austria during World War II published in 2001 in addition she has co-edited constructing nationalities in east-central europe be published in 2005 and publish over 30 scholarly articles on such topics as religious reform in 19th century Vienna synagogue affiliation in 19th century

baltimore and austrian jews women during World War one which is currently completing work on views and other adjournments in Arabia 1848 1938 she has served as a president of the Association for jewish studies between 2009 and 2011 is vice president for program and structure of the American Academy it for you is a research in which in which you were those were all associated with the Association Association for duty sir studies professor ross elite has been at the university of maryland since 1978 serving a friend Eric Logan Iowa center for jewish studies from 1998 to 2003 and currently she’s the director of graduate studies in the history department thank you thank you very much well I having a story so not a social scientist like Judith and Patricio or a literary scholar so I’m going to talk about history and but before I do let me just just address the issue of three points the reason that people can see points is cuz I’m historian and project the tree is a magic number from civilization can there or the truth of these requests three is a magic number is probably both ways but that’s irrelevant for a Jewish couches I understand I have to begin by saying like I’m also very much enjoyed this book and very little role that Jewish Studies played in this book we gave you money to get her to get a record or write a fancy cake of sugars but the book is is a wonderfully interesting book which explores all sorts of issues that I explore as a story and other historians explore foot from the point of view of the NADRA firm and apologized and so is wonderful but the same one of the central issues in Jewish history that is in history of the Jews is the issue of identity we didn’t leave fancy new scholars to discover this this is something that we were interested in for a long time what does it mean to be Jewish but also what does it mean to become something else while still stager so does it mean to become Argentinian in this case while still being Jewish and that sort of the central issue in mother just ran from the 18th century I haven’t used a similar adopt the mores and identities of the world in which they live and the culture and languages of their neighbors and still remaining Jewish and so this is an important contribution to that literature because what Gigi’s done is taken a look at a very unusual group of Jews who go to a rural area absolutely no place from the Jewish point of view and website is absolutely no place but but but little was little town certainly is they’re not the only Jewish farmers in the world in this period there is some attempt in the late 19th century to have Jews become farmers they have been prohibited for farming and they wouldn’t have allowed to farm but most of the limit of Europe was already you know owned by somebody else so they there were attempts both in in Argentina and in North America and and of course in Palestine rest today Israel that was the most successful of the three times obviously but but actually in all three cases ultimately everybody leaves the land and goes to the big city there’s a wonderful memoir by a Jewish woman who was a homesteader in South Dakota in the 1880s hope woman whose name escapes me right now but you know she and her husband homestead in South Dakota it was hard it was difficult than people there and they managed many other homesteaders first they lived in the dirt and then they go to nice house and make everything was wonderful by the geez they were successful and then they moved to the Appaloosa I would do grocery store so excuse me because who wants to be a farmer you know I suppose I don’t know but in any case so this is part of a larger of a large actually they moved probably because they know that their treacherous turmeric Judaism they were choosing Minneapolis and their hands in South so in any case but I admired just this attempt to try to understand what that was like in one particular place and exploring what Argentinian and use it to its for larger

issues of origin Timmy and identity as well but I too have some questions at the audit having made that I don’t have three points I just have one big point but the issue is what was the relation if there are several issues that I think I had questions what was their relationship with other Argentinean Jews because after all they was a large Jewish community websites that was developing in this period they too were confronting what it meant to be urgent India is very different environment than the environment to be students that they too had to and what did that mean what did it mean that I mean not what it mean for the Jews awareness ours that’s been studied what what what is the relationship between these students were these people in I’m sorry i can’t pronounce real life in the spanish way under several windows Spanish villa clara these guys are they said indonesia music I i’m going to pick villa clara you know what you know what is the connection not the kinect literal connection but what is the relationship between these students and and other Jews and then i suppose i have other questions that occurred to me as both of you were talking and they had and how would you move what would the difficulties of not in we’re surrounded by a rural environment which is very Catholic and so forth so you know I just want to focus on the Jewishness of these people who are at least of the original settlers I’m by now and so I wonder if you can say something say something about those two issues that’s all i have to say actually i really do like an anthropological excursion to some of the same issues that i deal with as I and I to answer some of the questions you want to and then I will open this sure I thank all of you I’ve learned a lot today it really makes me think but many other things definitely not writing another book but I keep thinking about the topic as we all do when when we write something I keep visiting and more thoughts come to mind I haven’t researched what the relationship of choose whichever up was with the Jews website is except for for doing this this writing that I consulted with the archives of the Jewish colonization Association which I found in new york and and most of the correspondence was in french and it was amazing how little connection there was with bikini advanced orders in paris and in london and the administrators of the Jewish colonization organization in Buenos Aires and those that were really farmers and people fighting this you know the locusts and the fires and everything on the around these archives this correspondence paint a very rosy picture of what the Vipers on the front and actually it doesn’t pay much attention to what I heard and read from the minutes of the organization’s meetings about what they struggled with day by day I did hear in my interviews how they had relatives and web servers and other large cities mostly they had brother tapes in the other large cities in the province of agri videos because they typically move not everybody move directly to website is a lot of people moved to town and the same brothers in the same state for example as a glass so poorly etc and so they they started you

know extending the family any difference so they got together for weddings and all kinds of events so visiting relatives another another thing that you mentioned how did they maintain a Jewish identity well because of the historical conditions of exclusion of being choose a Jew in Europe they did use religion and flavor as the great socializer into provider and so as the Jewish colonization Association provided for the construction of the houses they also provided for the construction of school and signal so that was not on the place of prayer but also the community center you know the place where a lot of social activities took place so but more to common if you come up with that memoir oh my god even more i would love to read it and i keep thinking about your your thoughts and and yes I read and after that i’m standing there thinking i’ll remember that big thing about a number of things i think that the issues are you know I focus on these issues in this reality but right now i’m working on the book on the immigrant experience in Prince George’s County and I come up with the same issues of constellations we might call it hubs nationalism nowadays but it’s the same preoccupation about amalgamating several identities and stuff finding you put together the issue of trust by which is something that you know flames it’s an awkward for us because you know it plays every social relationship right to what extent you can establish trust how quickly how much trust are you going to get so that you get to what you’re what you’re trying to get to my my my way of living with this was first continuously village for months and then once I decided I was going the more yes tynisha prada to come back and repeat visits where well even when I was living there for four months when I realized that there were issues of trust like what we ancients you know from the extreme of what we agents office into what are these people how much should we talk to them so I put together an open invitation I invited everybody in the village to come to celebrate the birthday of signora or senior be sure glad because they were preparing for the centennial so I thought you know let’s all prepare to the centennial who is this person what is how do we remember each other and I there was a very good at sentence it was in the villages auditorium and then i divided the big audience into age groups and it was amazing what how differently the memories came up at how different facts were poor memorialized for example the railroad has an incredible you know it’s the soul of the time it’s been benefits there’s only a patient of cargo train well there is a passenger train but you have to communicate by cell phone working with the train to see at what time it might ask the village and then make sure that you’re there to get on the train so it’s not very reliable but you know the older people for example as one of the images that they had about these are glad the train and the train station and the fact that they all went to the train station because when the train was coming because there was a social activity it was a place to I people to have meet

with your future spouse and the children said there is a railroad it has only one real hurry so you know it is 52 different constructions of what a real work meant for the village when when I decided to do more yes tynisha Clara I went twice back to for several weeks 12 to tell them about what I was about to do and to ask everybody who had photographs or document to come and portable scanner and it was all scanned view and then what I went to present in the same auditorium the more yessiree calculator i did have people everybody knows everybody enters gossip in every corner but there were many people who didn’t accept some of the portions that i wrote i still remember a woman who stood like this stood out and when like this and said who told you that about what was you know that i was saying it wasn’t true it gets you know they’re there was under still controversy in the town about the official story of the first Jewish settlers who mundane and still today said there was nothing here he did it all we put together the organization’s we made sure that that our children went to school etc etcetera it was true that they came with all of that because they came a lot of them as educated people but then there is the native Argentineans version that says well maybe he didn’t have a town but we live here and we had a head of life and it was right here my gran favor incident frontier you know how you reconcile those two directions and to me is a way of construction of the nation it’s very complex questions comments Mary I really enjoyed the panel so thank you everybody dude if I haven’t read memorials division father and I’m curious about the world that museum in the town and what what it depicted and whether there was any change as a result of the work that you did and what kind of relationship you had with the people who put together the museum I didn’t have a chance to be there with a museum opened it was before I came but there were sort of late historians of Jewish experience in the time and that literally squirrel volt and my pieces of paper a history of the town and then started collecting artifacts and that’s the way the museum was was born actually at the time when the real work was was privatized and there was very limited service they got permission to have the railroad station as innocent and it still is accepted garlic trains and it grows for a while after one of these historians died and then school teachers will open and with project or spiritual which also send up to people’s doors and has more effects and the most of the artifacts were donated by descendants of the first Jewish settlers so the way the a major exhibition space was set up was to tell that story later when the sentence of the other European immigrations started participating what is happening boys in the planning of the Centennial they were

given some space but not all the things it’s still pretty much the history of the Jews and some of the institutional history for example there’s the first dental chair medical medical artifacts and and there is a tiny not only is there a tiny space for the vouchers the natives of the line the hybrids make a native but also I find it interesting that it’s also the space is gone we’re going on Jacko the corner of the gouges so it’s not only snare isn’t it I find that very interesting if you elaborate on that because some I think we are dear lives gasps shows from our youth and we books and interesting things how exciting it all is and then for them it was just a reality where they’re really Jewish got captured oh the West Egg well works you know of course one of the experts and virtual office here and maybe he can sell this and tackle that question first and then I’ll yes they were both his court said that they will never doubt you double check potatoes like our men’s yes the man the face did some of the issues that you definitely the book and the flower was adversity and human should before how do you integrate into the land and how do you assume the role of department what is even more interesting is the fact that they were not Jewish vouchers who connected with a communicator speaking English oh okay to a Sephardic person yeah it’s quite it was a connection oh there was definitely I’m that classic Pogo Jewish vouchers which is that such a great book except when he was the first to game was that and they were certain for this it does address anywhere there are some movies about that in fact we made a total movie of that broke and in addition to heart music it’s something musical 2nite it’s an exam of the movie the movie range of the judge fudge it’s a terrible movies interpreted there is it but there is a solar documentary with some of the descendants that ends with a Jewish guy dressed up like a couch or mrs. Bell djibouti of so sure that’s so yes you do her romanticize yeah but everything which disables and one of the interesting seems that you are going to resolution eeka based community in New Jersey yes that tastes exactly the same problems as the driver another but they really are and also in Australia so you can do argentino stringent measures in the comparator places actually that’s right everyone would once he was done experian like look at ya caring all of these agricultural communities as well as mention to the releases of creative Jewish migration interval two and a half million Jews like Russian the left Eastern Europe in between including for that’s a lot of people and while most of them kids in the United States community that’s a lot of people in other places as well so now it’s interesting to see us how do they become Argentine but you know very subtly become German of polish your ugly ass adult and but I mean in this context it’s like it’s more exotic to become Argentine them to become something else you know I don’t know if that’s true because I explored I’m just between German and that don’t you know in my word so they don’t they do right I mean both aren’t you a quick question could you quickly because I know a lot of people already know that touch on how those communities came to exist historically what I am presented was the last chance

of landing yeah and that was exactly it wealthy philanthropist Byron de hirsch that was able to to buy large large tracts of land in Argentina at a time when our German government wanted to bring Europeans particularly white and it was not as immigration is not as closed as it was like this was and large transit lands primarily in the province of intravenous but also in other provinces there were there was a one point fourteen colonies agricultural colonies so I Argentina and how are you forgot about well I mean the truth let’s put it this way the places the currencies are still there and you tours nobody still lives in part of villages and towns some people who want the land because they had 20 years to pay for event some people who bought the land you know they only had one tractor plant it was unproductive so they ended up selling and some profited from the situation stayed on and bought of those working and became Lando themselves that’s the Jewish colonization organizations started in 1892 and ended in 1974 so it’s not it’s you Bri sound that and the land that they still had for example bicicletta they donated to the village for public purposes so it’s now that they donated I’d like to ask you something to using compasses they work on a glider with currently mentioned that in passing but i would like to elaborate a little bit more on in which way if any the experience of writing the book on together help you with your current research or latino latin american immigrants in the area up is scanning mechanical you mentioned that sure there are some connection when i take the position i’m here 95 i was primarily interested in the latin american latino vibration because that’s primarily what I had been doing in New York my previous outside and but very soon after coming here I realized the richness of the county in terms of the diversity some no longer only focusing on there that’s an American vibration but on migration from all over the world whether they actually reside in and so I’m writing a book about the immigrant experience in their happy trying to understand using the same methodology of life histories trying to understand who comes here from where and why how they settle here how they many come by here and they whether they become to what extent they become American and trying to test our imagine notions about assimilation and contestant to me to the extent that they can work whether it’s the way and to think or ideas as a married assimilation and so on from the first time to rethink about those issues but from a prospective way the people doctor and did you find any significant difference well there are Fox all it does is the time difference yeah and they come from four different reasons some escaping violence in the countries of origin some

because there they want to try the new opportunities another issue that I find interesting in Prince George’s honey is a wide diversity in socio-economic which is a contradiction with the idea weight of keeping Outsiders in margin account and immigration attorney thank you very much to do if I have a quick question I’m passionately about the this attention that has been talked about um within the community in terms of the varying ways in which they remember the past did you see generational tensions was youth versus age and all at play here and actually I didn’t only go see s entraba interviews index from the start i started doing informal in these focus groups and group presentations and then i realized that a lot of people i was going through a mac by a mac that i was given by the mayor off the village and i realized that a lot of people live well outside of the boundary so i started i did a survey generational survey going until you know it was just open back to figure out who did where and who were those people and when they have than what i did was what i call the general issue survey i asked them where they were born and where their parents and grandparents were children children and so it depth of memory but also of living in the village and then for more structured interviews asthma graphic interviews i selected the oldest person in each clock on the basis that they would have the more memories so that was one way that I tried to together this other questions all right then i would like to thank you can do it for their presentations and now invite you all to lunch that will disturb across the hallway so thank you very much