Gary Yourofsky – Q&A Session

Let’s do some Q&A, we still have about half an hour for Q&A session You can ask me to clarify something if it didn’t make sense to you, Something in the video – what was going on, why it was going on, how I got started, jail stories, whatever you want – I’m here to please Somebody popped up back there first So like, lets say I did want to become a vegetarian, the price range for a week amount of food vs. somebody who eats meat, and goes to Walmart or Target or Kroger, the groceries stores that aren’t generally pushed towards vegetarians and vegans what would be the difference in price? It’s gonna be cheaper There’s a big myth out there that it’s more expensive to be veg Let me explain this in a couple of different ways Now, first of all, the cheapest things on the market are cruelty-free and vegan Rice, beans, lentils, pastas Things like that Keep in mind, this is why poor people, impoverished people around the world… they’re vegetarians Eating meat is a luxury It’s only cheap in America ’cause we subsidized the hell out of it! And.. I want you to put one thing into the equation and nobody ever wants to put into the equation Health Pharmaceuticals, hospital visits, doctor visits, all these pills, all the vitamins, health care That stuff was not created for vegans Those are meat eating creations I’m about to turn 40 in August, I have no health care I take no vitamins I see no doctor I don’t need to I eat properly and I exercise So if you put health into the equation, meat eating is the most expensive diet out there, for sure Also keep in mind, if you do buy processed foods, vegan or non-vegan, you always pay a little extra If you pay Turtle Island Foods to make you a Tofurky, if you pay Lean Cuisine to make you some kind of meat dish, it’s a little more pricier ’cause somebody did it for you So you could also, if you’re really good in the kitchen, make this stuff on your own Now, I got a recipe section online, I also have a restaurant section and a grocery section, too, so you can always look up that stuff, you can contact me, ask me how do I make this favorite recipe of yours I will track it down My girlfriend, too, is a wonderful chef as well So keep all those things into the equation Let me say one more, too – If you eat out, whether you eat meat or you’re vegan, it’s always a little more pricier, too So don’t blame it on: “Uh, I went to this vegan restaurant and it was pricey.” You know, Outback Steakhouse isn’t so cheap either, and Longhorn Steakhouse and all these other places, too And if you eat out at restaurants, places like Subway, their veggie sub, when they’re not doing their $5 special, the veggie sub is always the cheapest thing on their menu, on Italian bread and it’s vegan If you go to Taco Bell, get a bean burrito without the cheese, you wanna talk about dirt-cheap – 99 cents And I bring this up, ’cause students try to do this with me all the time: “Gary, I understand what you’re saying but I’m broke, I’m a college student, only got a dollar, gotta go to McDonald’s!” Well, you can do the same nasty shit at Taco Bell too, okay? And I say nasty shit, ’cause if you eat at McDonald’s, don’t tell me you’re eating for taste! Yes sir So how do you get the same meat taste for a vegan meal? Without using meat Yeah.. If you use the right combinations of vegetables and spices, you’d be amazed what you can mimic For instance, there’s a lot of mock-fish that’s out there, I was talking about the shrimp from that company If you go to a website called Vegieworld: V E G I E, one G, vegieworld.com, they got fake lobster, they got cod, they got salmon… any fish product you’re looking for They use seaweed Seaweed gives the fishy smell and the fishy taste You’ve all had a good Portobello mushroom at some time, too If you hookup a Portobello mushroom on a grill, tastes awfully steaky So they use mushrooms when they wanna get a beef flavor, too The woman that runs my recipe section, Amy Ball, one of the best chefs that nobody knows about I was passing through San Francisco a few years ago, and one of my perks for traveling is that I get to eat all over the country And I know what’s vegan that’s out there, so I stopped by her house and she says: “You want a vegan hard-boiled egg Gary?” She didn’t say vegan, “You want a hard-boiled egg” I said: “You kidding me? You got a vegan hard-boiled egg? What do you mean? There are no vegan hard-boiled eggs!” She’s like: “I got one for you.” She takes an avocado, slices it in half, takes half of it out Think of an avocado; think about yolk that’s been hard-boiled, it’s the same texture One’s yellow, one’s green She takes the avocado, put it on some vegan mashed potatoes, that’s she made with hemp milk or rice milk, whatever her vegan milk of the day was, that mimicked the outside softness of the egg She puts two dashes of salt on there and goes: “Take a bite.” “Holy shit! Vegan hard-boiled egg.” So if you get really creative people in the kitchen, there are a lot of creative chefs out there, they can make anything tastes like something else

So that’s what they’re doing. No chemicals! No chemicals Yes? Some of these meal-like foods, do they have to go the extra length and add a lot of sodium and corn syrup? There’s sodium in there for sure, absolutely And you know, salt is something that gives things a lot of taste, so, you might have to look out if you wanna watch your sodium But I don’t want people to be concerned about sodium before you’re concerned about animal protein, cholesterol, saturated fat, all the other things It’s kinda pointless It’s kinda like somebody smoking a cigarette in my face and go: ”Hey Gary, you shouldn’t really smoke that weed.” I’m like “What?! What are you talking about?” If you are doing something unhealthy, what’s the point of trying to find… keep away something else that might be unhealthy for you? Yes From what I understand, the basic concept of veganism is not to exploit or harm living beings, right? Everything from, say cows to even yeasts But what about, say if you have to deal with parasites, bacterial infections, diseases from that, how do you go about treating yourself? Yeah.. Self-defense is an acceptable form of protecting yourself that’s understandable, but say.. say as a doctor, in your profession, you have to, I mean you have to go in there and you have to kill, I mean heat Kill what? Bacteria? Yeah So, are you founder of “People for the Ethical Treatment of Bacteria”? This is… the only thing that bothers me when this is brought up, is that you want to equate cows in the same level as parasites and bacteria Oh no, I’m equating bacteria and yeasts together Okay, but do bacteria harm you most of the time? When they do, they’re harmful, you have the right to defend yourself and kill something that’s harming you Now, let me explain this in a different way: if you and I were walking through the woods and a bear attacked you and jumped on you, do you really think I’ll be like “Huh, too bad… I’m vegan, man.” I will beat the shit, or try to beat the shit, out of the bear and get him off you as a self-defense You were attacked If some human jumped on you for no reason, I’d also protect you, too If bacteria are killing you and destroying your body, you have the right to destroy the bacteria that’s trying to destroy you Keep in mind, cows do not attack us Chickens have never attacked a human being in history Something else I’m kinda curious about: how come we think we’re better than chickens, when we kill 35 to 40 billion chickens every year on this planet? We’ve been doing this for thousands of years How is the murderer more special than the murdered? How is the oppressor better than the oppressed? We got this stuff backwards, we’re not better than them We’re the ones attacking them, that makes us less important, that makes us worse, that makes us evil Yes So, say the world population is at 8 billion now, And at least most of the United States’, it is considered meat eaters, right? So with only a certain portion of the world being devoted farmland on, you know, places we can grow food And it just seems to me, that if most of the world went vegan, then it would… I mean, I know your quote on the 65% of the grain goes to meat products, but how would we support ourselves without meat products, I guess that’s what I’m trying to say.. or eggs, or… Easily and wonderfully Let me throw out some other stats: 95% of soy in America – is animal feed 80% of corn in America – animal feed 70% of oats in America – that’s animal feed If we ate the stuff directly Do you know that one acre of land can yield 30 thousand pounds of carrots, 40 thousand pounds of potatoes and 50 thousand pounds of tomatoes One acre of land can only give you 250 pounds of meat Okay? We would be using less land, destroying less habitat, if we just ate crops directly Please go to the “environment” section of my website or go to a website called earthsave.org, everybody gets fed Here, let me throw this out there: You know, the world’s largest ‘feed the hungry’ organization is called Food for Life Global, please look them up online When I found out about this group, that solely uses vegetarian and vegan food to feed people, 2 million meals per day I found out about them ‘bout 10 years ago I also found the 2nd largest group on the planet doing ‘feed the hungry’ stuff.. is Plenty, plenty.org is their website Both are vegetarian groups Now, I sent a letter to both presidents saying: “Oh my God, this is wonderful! Finally somebody realized you don’t have to harm animals to help people.” I got letters back that were almost identical, they said something like this: “It’s not that we do this for ethical reasons, we don’t want to argue with you, we don’t want to debate you on that We do this because it’s cheaper, and we feed 20 to 30 times the amount of people when we use vegetarian food than when we… than when groups use meat.”

Another question, somebody up here? Right there Um, I agree with you on the vegetables and fruits and all that stuff is really good for you, but I… I guess… Let’s say, processed soy is bad for you because it causes the body to generate extra estrogen Well, here’s something interesting on that – if estrogen is people’s concern about soy, meat and cow’s milk have twice the amount of estrogen that’s found in soy But let me break this down for you The estrogen that’s found in soy is a phytoestrogen, P-H-Y-T-O, plant based Phytoestrogens cause no harm to the human body, whatsoever It’s animal estrogens that drive the body crazy But I got some good news for you, if you’re really concerned about eating soy, you don’t wanna do it… Don’t do it Eating soy does not mean that you can’t be vegan, or not eating it There’s wheat-meat, or just get down to the nuts and bolts of veganism: Go fruits and vegetables, lentils and beans and things like that, so you don’t have to make soy part of your diet And if you wanna go to my website, I hope you do, I got a brand new section about all the myths out there about soy, a lot of them are being spread by Mr. Michael Pollan, “The Omnivore’s Dilemma” And by the way, what the hell is the dilemma? Is being kind instead of cruel really problematic to people? Michael Pollan, by the way, is a hunter, is an unpaid spokesman for the meat and dairy industries Please do not go listening to the “Food Inc.” movie or to his “Omnivore’s Dilemma” book, he’s nothing but Ted Nugent-like -Yes. -I was just wondering if you’re only bought products made in the U.S.? Because you’re advocating like… cruelty-free, but then, what about, like… cruelty to other people in sweatshops? Do you only buy American… Oh yeah, nowadays. You could look at the tag, and it’s from Hemptown I buy my stuff from vegan companies that pay a fair wage, and yeah, I don’t do the target stuff anymore, the Kohl’s or anything like that There are a lot of other issues to be concerned about, and I’m glad that this is brought up But let’s keep in mind the main form of cruelty on the planet, is what we do to the animals But please, get involved in other issues like avoiding sweatshops, try to buy locally and all that stuff Do you find that it’s affordable to buy…? Yeah, you know, I got 3 of these shirts.. I just ordered them, they were 9 bucks each, and yeah, they were dirt cheap, too It’s re… it’s not as difficult as people think, to live ethically It always seems that way because we’re used to the other way, of not caring about where products come from, not caring about what happens to other animals and to other human beings Which country were you kicked out of? Canada kicked me out first in 1999 This happened because in 1997 I decided I wanted to do more than just be vegan, I wanted to actually free animals who were being held captive So I went to a mink concentration camp, a fur farm for animals, the Eberts Fur Farm in Blenheim, Ontario Now, I’m from Michigan, so Canada is just right across, about half an hour, 45 minutes away So I went to this farm, and I opened up the cages for 1542 mink Now, mink in the fur industry are killed in two ways: 1. They have their necks manually broken, they take them out of the cage and snap their neck against somebody’s knee, or they gas them, back to the concentration camp stuff Now, things went badly that evening, I was arrested, and quickly… 540 mink actually escaped that night Holes were cut in the perimeter fence, there was a little dirt road, and then there were 600 acres of forest That’s all they had to do is get across the street, find the way out Unfortunately, a thousand mink never made it off the grounds, for that, they were doomed All I can give them or anyone else, would be a chance to be free I mean, lets face it, If you were all being held in captivity, you were gonna have your neck snapped, your skin ripped off your body so somebody else could make a pair of slippers You’d all be going: “Man, I hope Gary’s coming by tonight, open up this damn cage, give me a chance!”, so I got arrested that night, um, I was put in maximum security by the way I was given a six-month sentence, I did 77 days before they deport me and threw me out and made me persona non grata And let me just tell you a quick little story, too While I was in jail, I was with some pretty bad people, child molesters, rapists, murderers, people who are trying to stab people They were trying to teach me a lesson, they put me in one of the worst places around So, they put me in the unit, went in on day one, kind of a holding unit before they move me to my unit And there’s a TV set on in the corner, and the alpha male has got the clicker, He’s…5, 5:30, 6, 6:30 news Lead story in Canada that night: “International Terrorist Gary Yourofsky Sent to Jail Tonight” “Gary Yourofsky – International Terrorist, Sent to Jail…” I got ‘international terrorist’ with every mention of my name, I’m from Michigan, and it’s Canada, I am now global So, I don’t know anybody on day one, I’m standing at the back of the cell and they’re all huddled ‘round the TV And they finally realized I’m in there with them One guy’s kinda standing like this… he’s looking around “Hey! That’s the guy back there… that’s…”

He goes around: “That’s the guy back there.” Now, the alpha male gets in, he walks up to me, pretty big guy, he’s like: ”You’re an international terrorist?” I said: “Yeah.” “’Cause that’s funny man, you don’t look like an international terrorist.” I said: “Maybe it’s because I’m the exact opposite of one, here’s what I did, I freed some mink, they were gonna have their necks broken…” Now, the first thing he said to me, I preached a lot in jail, first thing everybody said to me was: “What the hell is a mink?” “It’s like a big ferret, it’s in the rodent family…” And the next thing that was always said to me… This is not verbatim, but the intonation is verbatim It went something like this: “Wait a sec, they put you in here with us ‘cause you freed some rats?” In the end it’s always with an “us”, they knew they were bad. “With us?” I said: “No no no, they put me in here with you, because I also caused $2.1 million of damaged to the mink farm, and put the guy out of business permanently to this day And we don’t tolerate economic sabotage in our society.” One more thing I want you to think about, when they first arrested me, they refused to give me bail They thought I was gonna bail out, go back to Michigan, and there’s no extradition for mink liberation So, I had a 10-day bail hearing! I bring this up ‘cause I challenge anybody in this room, find me a 10-day bail hearing for a rapist, a murderer or a child molester Won’t do it. But, the mink liberator gets 10 days Now, on day 10 my attorney, Steve Rogan, found out that the same exact judge, Elaine Babcock, that have been denying me bail for 10 days, had just giving a man from Michigan, 3 weeks earlier, $1000 bail, 2nd degree criminal sexual conduct Now, you know how judges can get when they don’t wanna hear something in their courtroom Boy, she goes flushed red, top of her voice, she goes: “Steve, don’t you dare bring that up in my courtroom! That’s got nothing to do with this case, and you damn well know it!” Now, I’m sitting over there in the defendant’s box, I can’t talk to my attorney now, he was pacing in there, but in my head, I go like: “Don’t back down, don’t back down, don’t back down…” So he’s pacing and pacing, I’m like: “Come on Steve…” And 30 seconds later, he turns and he says: “You know what, Your Honor? It’s got everything to do with this case! My client, tried to stop cruelty, and he wants to go to jail at this point and make a statement on behalf of the animals You gave that guy, from Michigan bail for sexually assaulting a woman, and you won’t give my client bail?” She looks at me for the first time in 10 days, and I was like… “Well… $10,000 bail.” Now, agree or disagree with lawbreaking, and I hope you understand, everybody that we all collectively admire: Dr. King, Gandhi, Rosa Parks, Henry David Thoreau, Jesus were all radical lawbreakers Every single person on this planet that ever made substantive change, was a radical lawbreaker Even if for some reason, you don’t think that I should be breaking law, or that people should break laws, you can’t tell me, it should cost $1000 to sexually assault a woman for bail, and $10,000 to free some rats Bottom line in this: Sexually assaulting a woman doesn’t affect the economy And we just don’t care about things that don’t affect the root of all evil- Money Question? A: What got you started? and B: What’s the tattoo on your arm? Tattoo is me with a mask on, holding a bunny rabbit, and it says “Praesto et Persto”, which is Latin for “I stand in front and I stand firm” And it says “ALF – Animal Liberation Front”, which is a group that goes around, there’s no membership, but anybody that goes around and liberates an animal or destroys the place that tortures, is considered an ALF member What got me started was my stepdad is a clown in the Shrine Circus Takes me backstage when I’m 23 And mind you, I got my blinders on too, I can care less about animals besides the dogs that are, you know, in my life Or if a chipmunk runs by me, I’m like: “Hey! There’s a chipmunk.” But I’m like everybody else, I’m eating dead animals, I could care less about cows and pigs and what they’re going through And he invites me backstage and said: “Do you want to come see the elephants?” I’m like: “Hell yeah! I wanna see the elephants. Are you kidding me? Can I bring Wendy with me, too?”. My girlfriend at that time He said: “Yeah! Bring Wendy down.” So Wendy and I go backstage, we’re excited! We were like playfully pushing each other like: “I’m first… first… first…” Until we got back there and we just stopped dead in our tracks When you see cruelty in front of your face, you don’t need somebody to explain it to you I knew what I was seeing was evil 3 elephants were lined up in chains, front left foot, back right foot, each of them chained up to the cement floor of the warehouse of the Michigan State Fairgrounds I look to the left I saw… I saw a monkey, screaming and grabbing the bars of his prison I saw 2 tigers to the right of me pacing, pathetically

And I turned to Wendy, pardon my language, but I’ll tell you exactly what I said I said: “What the fuck is an elephant doing on 8 Mile and Woodward Ave. in Detroit in the first place?” And she said: “I don’t know.” And we walked up, face to face with these elephants, and if you pay attention to energy, and please don’t think this is weird, we do this all the time Like with babies with infants, they don’t talk and communicate, but if a baby starts crying “Please don’t… You thirsty? What…are you hungry? You need to be changed?” You’d figured out, look at their eyes, look at their movement These elephants were swaying like this, neurotically Now, I’m no elephant expert but I know that’s not elephant behavior I later found out that’s a neurotic behavior every elephant gets in every circus, ‘cause they’re kept in chain. In the wild, elephants walk 20-50 miles a day I looked into their eyes, I saw nothing but hopelessness and fear, and I knew something was wrong So that got me thinking… Where do my food come from? Where do my shoes come from? What really goes on in an animal research lab? So that’s when I started investigating, I’ve mentioned this earlier, I started going in to the Thorn Apple Valley pigs slaughterhouse I started going into animal research labs And.. I fought it at first, like everybody been… well… like most people do, I didn’t wanna stop eating the animal, what else am I gonna eat? Salads all day long? I mean, it’s really like… it’s a myth out there, that all vegans live off of, is iceberg lettuce and tomatoes Okay, this is not true, but that’s what I thought too… So anyways, the more I thought about it, the more I realized, that I was a hypocrite And here’s a paradox I want you to think about: Why do we call some animals “pets”… and others “dinner”? Why do we fight for the rights of certain animals, to be happy and loved and safe? Dogs and cats in America… But others? “Hey! Slice their beaks off! Those damn hens, slice them off. Fully conscious! Those pigs, those piglets rip their testicles out, screw ‘em!” There’s a major hypocrisy going on You can see the choice that I make All I can ask you to do, is put your head on your pillow every night, and know that you are not responsible for premeditated acts of cruelty Again, the world is tough enough for us, and especially for the animals Do we have to make it worse by eating them? There’s no need, in this day and age, to be consuming any animal product, whatsoever It’s time to let it go So, I noticed when I came in here, that you are not a member of PETA, why is that? Ahh… I’m screwed Full disclosure: 2002-2005 till November, PETA funded my tour I was never a PETA employee I took money from them as a sponsor – Independent contractor Um, I take money from anybody to do good things with it, I don’t think it’s wrong to take evil money and do good things with it Now, PETA pulled their funding from me in November ’05, ‘cause they told me that education isn’t important Really? It’s the only thing that ever made the world a better place, was teaching somebody else ‘bout why they shouldn’t discriminate or harm somebody else But, bottom line with PETA… The corporation that is PETA With their corporate headquarters in Norfolk, Virginia I’m a money-taker and not a moneymaker I told you during the speech and I meant it I’ve never once charged a school for a lecture I’ve never once charged a professor to pay me to come to their classes I’ve never once passed around a collection plate to students I do not believe you should have to pay to learn about the truth Now, PETA… It costs me about $64,000 a year to do this tour, 35 to 40 is the travel, hotels, rental cars, food, gas It’s not cheap ‘cause if I’m on the road seven and a half months a year, I take the rest so I can just live and pay my own bills, which is meager, it’s a meager salary that I get for doing this Um, but in the end, the accountants came in to PETA’s headquarters Um… Ingrid Newkirk’s offices, she’s the founder and president of PETA, and said: “You know we’ve given Gary $64,000 for 3 years, that’s $192,000 We also gave him $20,000 to put his speeches on DVD, that he gave out for free to the students, when he was supposed to charge them 10 bucks.” When I first got these DVDs, people would always come up and say: “Hey Gary, I wanna share this with my boyfriend, my girlfriend, my dad, my sister… whatever…” And I’d go: “Oh, great, I got some DVDs, they’re 10 bucks.” And, you know, the average student would say: “I’m broke, I’m a student, what do you mean 10 bucks?” I’m like: “Huh, okay, here you go…” So I ended up… I gave out at least 95%, if not more, of my DVDs Well, PETA found out about that, they were pissed off, and I used to say: “You guys make $25 million a year, you can’t give out a couple thousand DVDs to people, that are actually now begging to learn more about animal rights and veganism?” So that, you know, obviously ended our relationship, when they pulled their funding from me. But something else I always condemned PETA – when I first started, while I took their money,

and now, that I don’t take their money, I still condemn them They exploit women. Their tactics are so ridiculous They’re always looking for a naked woman. Like Pam Anderson, they wanna put Pam Anderson’s boobs on billboard all the time Now, listen, I dig that Pam Anderson cares about animals, honestly But her boobs don’t make anybody go vegan! Now, when I used to bring this up with Ingrid, she used to say: “Do you know how many people see those billboards than see your speech? ” I’m like: “Oh, it’s not even close, millions more.” Are you telling me guys who are walking through Time Square, New York City, there’s Pamela’s billboard, and they go: “Holy shit, look at those tits! Let’s get some tofu!” There’s no connection. Now, listen, I understand… I understand why sex is used, why women are exploited to sell products, I don’t like it But, if you tell guys: “Spray this on, and 12 women are gonna tackle you in the hallway and have sex with you!” Boy! Guys are out like: “Gimme some AXE, spray it all over me!” You tell a guy: “You’re gonna get laid if you buy a Harley!” Boy! Guys wanna go and get a Harley! But you show Pam Anderson’s boobs… Nothing In. Out. Doesn’t do anything And there’s a lot more horrible things going on in PETA I actually have an essay on my website, if you click on “Other Animal Rights Issues”, I have an essay entitled “What’s Wrong with PETA?” and “What’s Wrong with the Humane Society of the US?” Which is nothing but an animal welfare group, that doesn’t wanna see… to free animals at all Next question. Let’s go up here and we’ll go back there in a sec Um… You mentioned the pet thing earlier, how do feel about, you have pets that are carnivores and feeding them meat? Bad idea! Now, let me preface this, I do not challenge anybody’s love for their dog or cat If you’re a sane person, sane people, who have dogs and cats, treat them like family members Unlike Michael Vick But, you brought up a major problem with them Now, number one is they’re carnivores Now, this means we have to enslave and kill more cows, pigs, chickens, turkeys and fish to feed the dogs and cats that we like more than the cows and the pigs Now, hear me on this I don’t care what carnivores do on their own in the wild. Who cares… I got the Planet Life series, Planet Earth series, I watch them on National Geographic, I can watch a lion tear up a zebra to pieces, it doesn’t bother me But we have no business killing on their behalf And I’ll explain this in a simple way Who’s got a cat? Somebody’s got to have a cat, in front? Somebody? Do you ever go outside and kill birds for your cat? -No, he brings them back… –Thank you Cat does it on his own Nobody kills a bird for their cat But, you pay people at the slaughterhouse to kill birds for Science Diet, Iams, and all the other pet food Just like we pay people to kill chickens and pigs for us ‘cause most people can’t shove a knife in… you know… somebody else’s throat So, bad idea to have carnivorous pets Now, good news: In this day and age, there’s vegan dog food and cat food Now, this being said I am not here to turn your dogs and cats to vegans I did not get kicked out of 5 countries, by the way, the other 4 countries, somebody asked, were England, Northern Ireland, Wales and Scotland Even though I never set foot on their land ever, they preemptively threw me out, ’cause they didn’t like my assays But I did not get… I did not get arrested 13 times to turn your dogs and cats into vegans But, if you knew what was in dog food and cat food Let me mention the other problem of having dogs and cats, we over breed them Every year we murder 5 to 10 million dogs and cats in our shelters every year These are now slaughterhouses So there needs to be a moratorium, too, until every cage is empty But those 5-10 million dogs and cats in shelters that we kill every year, raise your hand if you think they end up in a landfill You’re wrong Once a week, the rendering truck comes around, picks ’em all up, and grinds them up and sells them to Science Diet, Alpo and Iams and all the pet food companies So we’re making our dogs and cats cannibals, and they don’t even eat real meat that they would normally eat I never talked about chemicals in all the animals that people eat This is for you too! This is a whole other issue on the side, that I’m more focused about ethics and stuff Okay, but they eat… they eat chemically laced meat They eat what’s left on the slaughterhouse floor, things that we don’t eat Every time there’s a meat recall, or a spinach recall for E. coli You don’t think that stuff ends up in landfill, do you? Science Diet and Alpo and Iams… So, this is why the vegan food is better for them Now, I wanna show you something real quick. Actually, I knew this was gonna happen this summer I have never shown this before, but My dog, Rex, passed away in 2004, he was 15 years old And Rex was a vegan for the last 9 years of his life Nature’s Recipe, vegan dog food formula Um… Don’t tell me Rex doesn’t look wonderful, ‘cause he does ‘Cause when I travel with him, and he came with me a lot on the road, I took him to vets when I had to,

every vet freaked out and said: “Oh my God! you can’t make your dog a vegan Gary, ‘cause you’re a vegan! He’s a carnivore.” I’m like: “Go ahead, do some blood work on him.” They all do blood work, call me 3 or 4 days later say: “Mr. Yourofsky, all the vets are in the back room right now, we are astonished Your dog is in the most amazing health we’ve ever seen.” I said: “Yes, ‘cause my dog doesn’t eat garbage.” And when I say ‘the garbage’, too When I was at Thorn Apple Valley for six weeks, every day I saw a truck pull into the lot, the side of the truck says “meat not fit for human consumption” I watched the truck go into the alleyway every day, took three garbage bins and dumped them out The garbage bins Right off to the pet food company It wasn’t hard to track that down So this is way that vegan stuff is better Now, the vegan cat food, by the way, is not on the market, gotta go online and, I think vegancats.com, or evolution.com But vegan dog food is at every pet food store that I’ve seen It’s called Nature’s Recipe Um… Question? Oh, I’m sorry, I see we’re out of time You know what? Thank you very much for listening, I appreciate it. I can take after class