2015 Regional Transportation Plan Public Meeting

first of all I wanna say thank you for everybody to come this is the lake havasu metropolitan planning organizations transportation plan public meeting number two okay we had a meeting back in January in which we kicked off the this particular study which is the development of a multi-modal long-range transportation plan the NPO and let me first of all let me introduce myself my name is Patricia gonella and i am from jacobs am taken some today is going to be conducting the transportation and developing the transportation plan i would like to introduce yu jin night she is actually the director of the lake havasu metropolitan planning organizations with me i also have Suzanne O’Neill she’s right in the back she is our transit expert and she’s part of our team and then we have Jeanette up there the girl that makes everything happen so all of this is because of her setting everything up so Jeanette Buckley so thank you for for all your hard work the way of the meeting is going to be the following I would like to first present to you the information that is actually on the board so that one after we finish the presentation you all come over we can go on the board and we can talk some more but I would like to give you some information about in some of the background so that you will be easier also for you to understand what the boards are telling you so let’s go to one of the things that we have to do how many of you know what a metropolitan planning organization is one two three four five okay one of the things that we have to understand is what this organization can do and cannot do it is tasked to do planning for an area they encompass the entire city of lake havasu city and portion of the county the boundary it’s right there the dashed boundary that is the boundary of the metropolitan planning organizations and as you can see elite the transportation planning process the transportation policies but it does not build anything okay metropolitan planning organization does not build anything it plans and then it can get funding and then the cities and the county will build whatever are the improvement that are going to be in the play on the next one okay why is the plane needed I’m going to start with the bottom one money in order to obtain state and federal funds special state the federal funds you need to justify to the fat and to the state why you need it otherwise everybody say hey I want a six lane road here three there I want five new bridges well you have to complete Yuma has to compete Prescott has to come everybody has to compete so the first thing that needs to be done to be able to get funding is to be able to have a plan and you justify the plan and then you get in the queue okay and try to obtain the federal funding so that is to really one of the most important things but more importantly regionally you need to also be able to have mobility with your neighbors will you have Parker you have Kingman and you have other locations around so regionally you also have to be able to be in contact with one another make sure that you have the ability to move from a location to another so regionally comprehensive framework we need to improve safety that’s another important thing safety is extremely important there is a lot of funding in safety from the federal government if we can justify safety improvements that’s one of the things that can be done in the study the other thing hopefully if we have a very reliable transportation system we could have economic growth if you do not have a reliable transportation system then it doesn’t happen so these are some of the major reason why we need to have a plan next one okay a lot of people say well what is what are we going to get out of this study so I just put it right on the board for you okay what the study will do for you and what you will not do for you you will identify current and future deficiency so we are going to try to project based on the general language

plans and actually the city like ours who just had one that was conducted so you have a general engines plan based on what the general line juice plane says is going to happen how is that going to impact your robots that’s very important to know so we’re going to find what the current and the future deficiencies are we will provide multi-modal transportation recommendations which mean it’s not just going to be roadway it’s going to be roadway it’s going to be bike it’s going to be packed it’s going to transit okay we’re going to do multi modal and we will identify for you what the funding sources are but we will done give you the money because we don’t have it but we can tell you where you can get the money and we will provide the NPO with an implementation plan so we can identify which one add the most critical issues currently and we were going to say between within five years these are some of the improvement that needs to be done within the 10 years frame and within the 25 years frame so that’s an implementation plans that we have for you the one things that this plan will not do you will not unfortunately be able to do instantaneous solutions for you everything takes time and planning actually is the first thing is takes sometimes we will now recommend roadway alignment and this is what i mean by that we will identify that it might be a need for alternative emergency route if anything happens to 95 for instance they might be a need for an emergency alternative route which going to say there is a need but we’re not going to draw an exact line where it’s going to be because that’s another study we will just say we need one but it is going to be a specific study that is going to only address that particular concern and we will not provide the funding and we will not do a detail and environmental assessment what we will do is we do an environmental overview which means for instance if we say there is the need for an emergency alternative route we will look at locations where there are environmental concern and we’re going to say stay away from there whatever you’re going to put a route if you need one stay away from all these locations because these are environmentally sensitive so we will identify locations but we will not do a detail environmental analysis okay okay purpose of this meeting what we’re here today we had as I said we had a meeting in January to just kick off and let you know that the study started we collected a lot of data we talked to stakeholder and we talk to our Technical Advisory Committee and we try to identify what the major concerns are so now we’re here i’m going to show you what we have found and now we’re here to say and ask you do you concur do you agree do you have additional ones that we are not aware of this is your time for you to come and tell us because if you don’t tell us we cannot address the concerns okay so that’s really what the purpose of this particular meeting is and we will also present the future conditions if we don’t do anything and the city in the county the entire NPO grows and we do absolutely nothing what would happen okay we’ll present that to you also so that’s the purpose of the meeting today let’s go to the next one okay the planning process I’m just going to go over really briefly on how that is conducted okay so the first thing that we did and we came here in January you know we presented what the goals and objectives are and I’m tell you actually the results of that i’m going to show you because a lot of you send in what your comments were i summarized and i’m going to show you what everybody they participated said about what the goals and objectives are then we did a lot of the data collections so that’s that’s done we determine the current and future conditions and that’s what we’re here to present to you today and okay and then we have to identify the needs and deficiencies we will present what we found so far but we’re here especially to hear from you and that’s what there goes there you go that’s where we are once we have identified the need to deficiencies there are two more step we have to go through based on your input and the technical analysis we’re going to identify a set of improvements once we have those sites of improvements we’re going to go back to the stakeholder and see what they think about it we’re going to come back to you

and ask you what you think about it and then the plan is going to get finalized so there are two more steps and you have a choice a chance to actually tell us again what you would like so the next step is to develop the plan for improvement and then we need to finalize it so once we have the plan of improvement we will come back out and we’ll ask you what you think about it so that’s actually the planning process how it is done let’s look a little bit of the existing socio-economic data so that is from the first board up here okay it’s up there but then you see just a little bit of the statistics about the area okay so we have that the populations is about 56,000 people this is in 20 that we have and the average household size yeah i’m going to interrupt you we have some empty seats right up here for a lot of you that are standing they would like to have a seat oh yeah that’s right you here to there one here a couple over here cuz you’re like me i can’t stand for an hour i’ll make a short time and so we have an average of about 2.2 and we have a employment of about 20,000 people here the the other thing is that we have to understand a little bit of the characteristic of the populations and we have that the population that 65 and older is about twenty-seven percent of the population in lacava the disabled populations it’s about twenty percent and the population living below the poverty level it’s about fourteen percent I have the comparison here on the chart how you compare with the the county the state and then the MPO okay so there are some comparison yeah you’re right you’re not too much on one side the other one except for the elderly population anybody knows what the mean age is like Alice soo ah no 50 yeah you gain five five years you gain five years ok and the let’s go to the next one so this is just a little bit of you know characteristic of populations now let’s go to some of the concerns that we have identified and you can see up there there are a lot of that the red ones and you will see them here ok I just want to tell you what they are the red ones are fatalities for data that was collected between january 2009 in october 2014 when we started in january that was the day when we requested all the data and you say we start from that day and at that time the october 2014 was the latest data that was available for crash data ok so the red dots are where fight allottees have occurred in the last five years the yellow the yellow area do so corridors where a lot of crashes are happening okay a lot of crashes happen in there then we have some blue little squares and purple square okay the blue square are the collision with the pedestrians and the purple squares are collision with bicyclists and I say you can see it much better here but the major corridors is ice road up there we have 95 of course it’s one of the quarter has the most number of crashes we have Palo Verde bulevar mesquite Avenue smoke tree in Kiowa okay those are some of the corridors there are have shown the largest number of accident now that doesn’t mean that that’s where all of the fatal accident occur that’s there is a lot of a large number of them okay on the next one pavement bridge in regional mobility concerns on which is the one right here next to it that’s the next figure here most actually of your roadways as far as payment is concerned it looks pretty good because it’s green there are some red dots and those are primarily on 95 that there is some pavement that need to be maintained ada is aware of that but we just want to put it out to you and there are two bridges okay now we’re talking about bridges here right just no because I wanted to pick on bridges but you know it just just happened so we talked about bridges there are two bridges there are functionally obsolete I’m sure everybody has already news do you know the difference between functionally obsolete or structurally obsolete the structural absolutely that’s the one when the structure it’s no good something the pillars are not pill you know keeping up the structures

is not good functionally it’s that mean they cannot longer do the function that they supposed to like London Bridge it’s too little you cannot function is he supposed to he’s too little okay so functionally actually it’s not that the bridge is bad you just cannot do the job that is supposed to you intentionally have done okay so there are two of them and one is the McCulloch bulova underpass on 95 and the London Bridge so really as far as pitches is concerned it’s not too bad we’re doing actually pretty good pavement also it’s not really that bad for it now for regional mobility instead click on that go to the next okay next one regional mobility okay there is a lack of north-south connections okay yeah you can’t whine you know to another one but there is really nothing that can take you more point A to point B on the north south so there are notes out connections issues that we have the next one is of course there’s only one road to the island if that something happened there that’s it well we keep the results the boat we can we can take the boat but still we need to think about that seriously now the other one is an alternate emergency route 295 if anything happens or 95 for certain pieces you can get around with some of the local roadways but if you cannot really go from one point of 95 from outside from one end of the MPO to the other end of the NPO as a connections you cannot do that so that’s something that we have to think I always talk about you know emergencies you know sometime this can also turn into potentially economic growth or issues so especially if the airport if the development goes on at the airport and things so that could also potentially be that but the primary one they were looking right now it’s it’s emergency so mobility wise there are three major concerns that we have to address okay next one multimodal conditions okay and this is this one okay this portion here is the multimodal conditions non-motorized what we have here we have identified all of the sidewalk and the trails and paths that we have what we’ll be looking for these gaps where there are pieces but it is not continuous so there are potential locations where there are concern by the writers or the pedestrians so we’ll be looking to see where those gaps are and actually you can actually see them real quickly and see if we can actually build a system a pathway system on on this one and for the another thing that is that is missing is amenities amenities are actually extremely important for pedestrians and especially in this state for pedestrians and bicyclists and that’s one of the things that it was mentioned there is a little lack of those so we will be looking also at those particular ones transit actually I just go briefly over transit but any question you might have Suzanne is here to answer them for you but why are there challenges to have transit in Lake Havasu well your roadway system is not very conducive you know to translate not because we don’t want to have the transit but it’s very it’s very hard to actually have a system to run efficiently because of where you have to go and the other thing is we have to make sure and this is where the hardest part is we need to balance the need of the community right with the cost and that’s some time they don’t go hand in hand for instance an average cost provider should be between four and six dollars and the fair recovery people the fairs you only pay usually ten percent or what it really costs to run a transit system that’s why anywhere in the world except in India anywhere in the world transit either by bus or rail it’s all subsidized everybody knows that right anywhere in the world except couple of places in India everybody seen the train in India where people stay on the top and everything that’s why they don’t need subsidized cause instead of having 20 they put 50 people on one car so it everybody case so that’s it but we have to understand the other thing is and i want to point it out to you population mean age it’s 50 okay so one of the things that we have to start also think about is provide alternate modes if people don’t want to drive to just say I wanna drive are they are alternate alternate mode there are offer do we need to think about that okay so that’s what we hear today

to talk to you about okay future where are we going okay well we are going from 56 92 about 71 and as I say we one thing that we try to do here is not to be overly conservative or overly optimistic everybody remember the 2005 2006-2007 right everything was going like this the growth in the state was wonderful right everything was growing and then 2008 happened and everything stopped so we try to find a happy medium between right not too fast and not too slow but something that we can can actually happen as far as growth is concerned so we got together with we look at the state demographer we got together with the cities and the counting planning department and so this is the projections that we have and they’re also reflective of what the general plan has then for employee for employment we’re going to go from 20,000 to about 27,000 so it’s it’s pretty it’s a pretty good cause the ratios by the way I am a mathematician but I cannot do arithmetic so if we divide 27 5 x 70 13 I know somebody got the phone there right that’s thirty five thirty percent something like that actually that is very good ratio for populations to employment okay that’s a very good ratio okay next now hopefully this one you can see a little bit the other important thing is growth is going to occur but where is it going to occur because depending where the growth is going to occur some more concerns happen right so um I don’t have a bit of a pointer Yeah Yeah right there okay let me get the pointer let me see okay here we go okay now for instance you see this color you see how darker it is on this one okay so darker the color is that mean more density it’s more dense is getting more dense okay so this one it’s growing here look here look at this area see that right here look here okay so there is a lot of growth that goes on over here okay there is more growth down here to there is some growth it goes over there okay but primarily is going to be right there that’s what the growth is going to occur and as I say we should have turned probably the lights down you could see it better but this is this is what it’s going to happen okay this is where some of the girls some of the growth is here but it’s primarily here this is where it’s going to happen so it’s nice to also once we say the growth occur is we would like to tell you where it’s expected to growth so this is where the distribution based on this growth and the employment growth let’s go to the next one what is going to happen okay so let me go over the first which is this one and then I’m going to go over the second one okay first okay the first one the colors you will see this what you see probably better over here but there is a light light yellow okay like yellow those are all areas where there is a medium medium congestion then there is going to be a darker on this one only there’s going to be a darker yellow because some of the stakeholder and the tech member says living here we think that this corridor actually need to be included okay cuz the first analysis that we did was just technical analysis based on how many cars there are the type of roads you know how many cars you can put on the road okay that was one thing so then I say well a lot of time when we look and we talked about how is the service of the road it is very subjective how people interpret the service of the road because for instance if you if people are a costume in large metro area they used to LA they used to be stuck in traffic and say well as the way it is right okay there are people instead more in the rural area that they would like to go with the flow and don’t have a car in front of them up a little further out you know but if they have to change the light once or twice they say oh this is a congested intersections some other people they are accustomed to a different type of traffic they say well I know I gotta wait five times before i go to change it on the light and that’s the way things are so for four so we did we add to the technical first which takes kind of that away a little bit but then we had to also get reality because reality is what people perceive their traffic is on the road that they drive every day so for this first ones they’re

going to be 21 is the yellow one then it is it thicker yellow and then there is a red and the red it’s mean that is high congestion okay for the future unfortunately i look at the crystal ball but nobody jumped out at me and tell me what they think it’s going to be extremely congested in 20-40 okay so what we have right now is just the technical analysis but the technical analysis shows for instance that 95 okay from a coma all the way it’s going to be congested okay so from up there to all the way down here right now it’s only here right now it’s only here but in the future is going to go from there all the way down okay and this is just the technical analysis that is telling us that and then there are some other ones so there are there is it oh one day actually popped out actually was the the bridge that one technically London Bridge 2040 doesn’t work the way this so we gotta really think about about that one and then there are some other ones so there is increase congestion that need to be addressed and we are here to hear from you or some of CERN are on how we need to address some of these go to the next one so remember I said we came in January okay and in January we said these are the goals and these are some example and these are the goals actually did attack and the stakeholder would like to ask the public curve do they now Conqueror because the plan needs to reflect whatever improvement we’re going to have we need to make sure that the improvement will preserve make safe and improve the authorizations of the existing system so whatever improvement we have we need to go back to the goals and we have to say do the improvement meet the goals so if you click on it okay let’s see what happened okay those three everybody said very important we want those three this is very important so preserve Mick safe planning design and implement a coordinated transportation plan and involve the public make sure that we’re all here to talk to you so I’m very actually happy to see everybody here today you asked there he goes and it’s there the next ok this one they said it was important but secondary and then the last one it was some more important so they were a lot of study done you can take a look at it but let’s take a look at something else too ok then the next thing we did is we asked what our preliminary priorities ok so preliminary priorities are what is going to help us achieve the goals that we just showed you so we have reduced congestion grease safety have a livable sustainable community air quality transit service bike and pedestrian facility preserve future travel corridors and preserve current transportation system ok so click once see what happened there you go these are the ranking that the public told us have a livable sustainable communities number one ok what this means what this means to me is that if there are improvements they needs to be done if there are new roads they need to be designed we should have to think about what is called Complete Streets everybody know what a complete street is complete Street will have roadways separate bicycle separate pedestrian shades and everything that’s what completes treaters okay so that to me number one that’s what everybody really conveyed they would like to have number two of course increase safety we just showed you all the accident here right and then three reduce congestion okay then 45 and 64 was bike and pedestrian facility five was preserved future travel corridor a lot of times it’s sometimes it’s hard to understand but it’s extremely valuable to understand to preserve the corridor because it costs a lot less now then it will cost 20 years when you need it and you don’t want to actually also build other facility all different types on it it’s it’s not advantageous note to the residents known to actually mobility itself and then we have six was transit service air quality seven preserve the current transportation system I think people interpreted this yeah we like what we have but we need to have something more okay because we need to preserve what we have first and make it

better and then we can build on it okay so these were the goals in the priority day was the outcome of the first public meeting when we came to you okay now next one scheduled we are near today which is meeting in January SR in July January first meeting we had a deficiency than in May we are here to present the deficiencies to you we are going to try to have the draft plan or the improvements by September so we will be back in October with a plan for improvement for you two to comment on and we would like to have the plan completed by December of 2015 so how can you click how can you participate ah gene is here that is there up your comment card there is all the information with n mail email you can scan out by the way we will place all of the boards and also your hand out on the lake havasu website right there ok Google Places so you can download as many as you want and fill out as many as you want I did have a date there and I would like to receive and by the fifteenth of august if it’s possible so that i can because we need to start looking at improvements and i would like to see what the public is saying what we should consider okay so i’ll have those question but first thank you by the way i also take answers okay not just questions i also take answers because it’s very important to also take those okay a lot of time people only say just know first of all thank you thank you very much for coming I’ll be here Jim will be here Suzanne will be here and a nexus year so if you want a few start questions and then I want to invite all of you to come to the board and to the boards and we can talk some more but if you have questions right now I’ll take your questions I’d like to know about okay okay sorry you have to go over there cuz you need to record it it William Brian you’re one of the things is sidewalks pedestrian safety and what have you I think we’ve got a problem with our sidewalks being cluttered with mailboxes mailboxes that take up half the sidewalk something that we need to consider also we need to make sure I think we’ve sent you some information on the trails yes and so we’d like to see those incorporated thank you john mastin how many people here are bikers raise your hand I’ve got a stack of petitions back there as well we need to have working bike paths trails and lanes in Lake Havasu City we’ve done some of this on our own right now we’ve got a shoulder that swept quarterly I know I just shredded a tire Saturday we also got to get these things signed marked we need a better solution do you do you have do you have a plan did you draw out bicycle absolutely okay I have a great idea on how we can do this okay can you share that I can okay I can we need that the other thing is is that we’ve had some fatalities in the past 34 years and one of the things I think that we can do and I don’t know how far into the MPO this is but we have an old highway north of here that a dot has abandoned its in disrepair but I think it’s a good candidate to put a blade to and maybe 10 foot of pavement across and and build place where we can have hiking biking equestrian type things go up there all sorts of non-motorized when we start talking about doing long-range bicycling you’ve got to get say you’re going to do a century ride you’ve got to get about 80 miles a couple weeks out on a century ride and the only way that we’ve been able to do that is to go down the highway and I think that we need to find a solution where we can do that I think it says something about a community that that has that type of a thought process we host triathlons we

host mountain bike races we host events that involve bicycles and and I think the more friendly that we get the more of those events we can attract the better it’s going to be for Doug over there from the CVB and I think that that you know utilizing that road might be our best solution to get some of that stuff solved so okay i just thank you for the and I just want to make everybody aware and there is a study they just kicked off today was it today or this week today okay the recent study this is a special study that the d-o-t is doing on State Route 95 from Yuma to i-40 okay the entire stretch coming through Lake Havasu okay coming through Lake Havasu it kicked off today it is called a corridor profile study in which they are going to identify all of the major issues and it’s the entire stretch so one thing we want to make sure you gene actually his she’s part of the Technical Advisory Committee for that study she’s the one and yet you she already told them about the issues bicycles on 95 so I just want you to be aware that there is that study and that is just starting it will take about a year to get done more or less and so they are going to address it unfortunately the the accident actually happened recently there just outside in pio although we have one that actually happened inside and few years ago and it’s there we have it marked and we know that there are the new ones they’re here they’re just outside the boundary so it is a concern is being told to a that and the team that is doing that particular study is also aware of that and I need to if I have a chance to talk to you after the meeting to see how we can exchange informations and things like that I would like that thank you yes sidewalks and we have to walk in the street so we’re interpreting their to that that is there is something that we will see there is another things that there’s another study that too is going on right now which is called a strategic safety plan the npl I’m not doing that another company is doing that but the NPO is actually conducted what is called a strategic safety plan the day will look at all of the safety issue and come up with a safety plan one thing that we can do on this study is identify safety as far as you know geometry of the roads if there are you know missing sidewalk and things but a lot of time safety has also another aspect that’s the one that we cannot control which is the behavioral hex bag right we cannot control that but there are things that can be done so Jean actually when did that kicked off okay okay she’s going to tell you because it just just started also and you want to be aware thank you will check on that I just have a quick question where did your population number come from is that the include the summer visitors is that the California visitors that people are there here all year round okay then there are the populations whenever we do a plan we cannot do a plan just for the summer or the high season we need to do it for an average day so this is the resident populations as usually we started with the 2010 census which was in April okay so April it’s a mixed it’s a mixed month so this is a population in april of 2010 this is what we start that’s our baseline and then we project from there so that’s what it is it on that population please understand that’s not just the city population yeah that’s why I pulled our map up here yeah because we go outside of the city limits so we have to count that population and laugh Cora yeah you have a risin 6 here you have desert hill CDP crystal beach and all of that it’s part of this but it is it is the April we do though when we do traffic projections we do look at one of the things at the traffic by month and it does vary by month okay but the one thing that is interesting about Lake Havasu which is the same thing actually that is happening because in Sedona everybody say oh we have only high you know in the summertime here you have only high just in the wintertime no you

actually pretty except for a couple of that month you pretty up because the summer you have the California in the winter you have their winter residents and visitors right so actually as far as traffic is concept for a couple of months out of the year you kind of pretty stable okay van same thing so don’t I didn’t want to accept that but they they have the same thing except for that couple of dead months they all have pretty stable traffic throughout the year so that those are the condition that we do is the average and your average actually is pretty consistent next I crystallogr um I understand you have to do a bunch of studies to plan out the roadways with bike lanes pedestrian lanes sidewalks but what can we do now can we do something more on the lines of education for the drivers such as signage warning that there’s pedestrian traffic bike traffic is there something we can put as they’re heading out onto highway 95 south highway 95 north to give them the idea that they need to give that rizvi actually that’s what the safety plan is going to do the safety plan is going to take a look at the safety issues and one of this is this one so they are going to come up because that is more of a behavioral issues right so we can fix if there is a like in intersections that has a blind spot and you cannot see it right or whatever but these this particular ones is because of driver behavior so they will come up with a plan they probably that would be for something to start with but that will be addressed on that one on the safety play but that’s something that it’s doable it’s very doable I Mike um on the MPO I’m just not sure if if y’all took in consideration the demographic okay you have the average age of the majority of the people here in town is 50 years old the demographic is changing and I hope you’re taking that in consideration because you know as 50 year olds you know it’s not like in the 50s and 60s where you know they they started to retire now you know the the 55 year-olds are still we’re still riding 100 miles a week you know at 55 years old going to club night I be I beat my son and all his friends hiking up on the mountains yeah we can you know so I do so I was just wondering if you’re taking that I know all the adoration yeah you know that everything is changing now and people are taking better care of themselves they want to they want to get out there and hike walk bike so and take all that in consideration that is they actually that it’s something that when they did the long were going to be the general plan that’s what the general plan does okay and then was is it been adopted no no yet next week is d huh okay Tony agenda to be adopted on july in 28 okay during the general plan that’s where is determined d’alene the land use and that’s where i know they had a lot of public meetings because i was one on one of them it was i won one of them here to also so that’s really something that this city has to consider because as you grow those are the one they say okay we reserve this as an open space we reserve this for the trail we reserve this for residential we reserve this for commercial the city decides that take what the city decides and then we’re going to see okay based on what the city has decided with the residents input and if this is the growth is going to happen mobility wise walking we do to help okay so now my question is to mr. frosty over there did you take everything that I just discussed in consideration on the general plan cool actually to go ahead oh okay he’s I’ll repeat what he said okay he said that they’re gonna have the public meeting sorry they’re gonna have the console the 28 and then the consultant for the general plan will be here sorry I got repeated he’s gonna be here he recounts thank you yes the the general plan for all intents and purposes is complete we’ve been meeting with the public for the last eight to

ten months it’s on the council agenda for the 28th to be approved by City Council if approved then we have we have to wait actually a minimum of 120 days before it goes to a general election so there’s still time to to comment what mr. sled about touched upon is included in the in the dialogue in the general plan but it is a general policy level document and could one of the things the few things I read from the draft and that’s why I mentioned complete Street this is something that the resident have to actually boys to the city into the council that whenever there are some new roads we really would like to see complete streets ok we can we can suggest it but you know that it was mentioned actually in the in the general plan the general plan is not a document developed by staff it’s developed by the public the public correct so so there was a lot of mentioning you know that deliverability sustainability and you know in this so it looks like if the council is going to adopt it some of these ideas are there so it up to you the public ones is adopted to say okay we want to implement it now Ralph bramlett from Lake Havasu City been here about 30 years I like to disabuse a a dot study on the economic impact of cycling icon within the state that was just done a couple years ago so if somebody wants to look at that it’s 119 page report and it’s a very inclusive another little thing I just printed off the internet the impact economic impact on cycling within the United States Arizona 88 million dollars is our impact just to go back a little ways state of Washington 3.1 billion dollar impact cycling on the state for missing the boat thank you but we we will report that okay any any other questions yes Alex silberman our question I have I think everybody’s pretty much in agreement about having complete streets improved cycling where’s the funding coming from and what can we do to increase funds because i think it’s going to be big issue i think they brought about building a second bridge to the island but there were no funds for that I mean all these are going to cost a lot so as a taxpayer dollars is it from the city is it from the state it’s it’s a combination of a lot of it one of the thing is because of the decrease in federal funding although they are going to try to do it new appropriations as we are talking as we’re talking in this CD are trying to get new appropriations okay but one of the things that has happened around the country because the federal funding hand decreases local entity have taken upon their own hands to do a lot of things for instance in Flagstaff in coconino county they went to a general tax just for Transportation’s the county and the city in addition to what they have okay they just it was done in november of last year they were very successful at doing that and a lot of other county in a lot of other cities they’ve taken upon themselves to say it’s hard to get all of it we know we can get some of it but if we need to get some additional one we’re willing to do it that’s what a lot of them are going to it’s hard to find the entire pot in one place it’s very hard right now and Jean can tell you because she is very good I tried to deepen in every pot chicken of money that’s available to her even borrow it from somebody else you know form another NPO because we can do that in this state luckily we can borrow that we have to pay back but we can borrow but the the solution is unfortunately the feds in the state will not be able to finance and I’m going to be honest with you they will not be able to finance like they used to any longer the local people the local jurisdictions are going to have to really think hard or what they can do internally to make the difference how can we initiate like a transportation tax or okay I will uh I’ll tell you to contact afterwards I’m sure it lots of people that people in white letters too well did the the gentleman they didn’t kokanee in coconino county i can give you his name

he was extremely successful at what he did so he can tell you he’s a County guy so he can tell you exactly what was the best way for him the things they worked it didn’t work cuz he passed the first time they did it the first time they did it it passed and he was extremely high vote of course they had project did they said they are going to do with that money and they’re going to do it so he was already earmarked okay i’ll give you his name I’m gonna jump right on that one one of the key things is the planning piece if you don’t have that planning piece you’re not going to get money from anywhere even if you took it to the voters let’s say you want your taxpayers in this city to help pay for biking paths and a lot of things I personally see the need for and trust me and Dan kies will tell you I’m hitting every pot and looking under every rock for any funding that’s available in its slim but if and it seems silly to talk about studies but if you do the study and in the midst of doing these studies we add the comments we add we start adding things to our plan that you as the general public say I want to see that in the plan and we started with our with this with our technical advisory committees we don’t wait till the plan is done we have other avenues like our technical advisory committee makes a decision on what projects that we’re going to have for the next ten years there’s not money for those projects I’ll tell you that right now that doesn’t mean that we don’t put it in the plan and start looking for the funding because you cannot expect cities and the federal government and the state to pay for all of it it’s not going to happen the fundings not there so that’s what patrizia was talking about and I was absolutely astounded when I went to a meeting in January and that tax and Flagstaff just whizzed right by but they had a plan for it if you don’t have a plan for what that money is going to be used for you’re not going to convince your neighbors to sign off on this and vote for a tax you know that as well as I do but if you have a designated source and you convince the council this is what we to do and you work at it don’t expect your counsel to do it all you guys are the ones that want it I want it so let us do it let us is the public get out there unless let’s talk to our people and let’s say okay what would you do with have us at tax sales tax and I believe it i’m sure with sales tax sales tax hits everybody because not everybody owns a home but everybody uses a road everybody uses a path everybody uses a trail everybody uses a sidewalk and they’re not paying property taxes well you’re paying for this homeowner so sales tax was what is extremely successful and it didn’t it wasn’t much it was less than a percent it was like less than a third percent but foresight of a third of a percent that they passed in the county and the city both did it so the whole county passed it as well as the city of Flagstaff but that doesn’t mean I want you all to go that’s what we’re just not ever going to get this done yes you can’t get it done you can get on our plans you can visit the Technical Advisory Committee and say okay we have a real need here and this is what we would like to see in the plan and so we put it might be five years out ten years out which seems forever but in that time frame we’re looking for those funding mechanisms and we can’t count on the city to pay for everything and we can’t count on the government to pay for everything we are going to have to pony up and we’re going to have to all chip in and pay for it at the grocery store when we go or walmart or kmart or wherever it is you shop trust me you aren’t going to miss it I’m not going to miss it and I I’m the first one will sign on board so I and I know it gets frustrating here oh my god they got this study going and nothing’s ever going to happen and it got another study going and nothing’s ever going to happen in the midst of these studies I wish all of you had been here in January I mean it we would have had a few things tweaked on here we probably would have seen the bicycling higher up yeah and we I mean we were begging we were making phone calls we were posting this everywhere we have a website we’re on the city’s website we were begging people to come to the meeting and tell us what you want and I am so happy to see you all here so your comments and your feelings and everything you are concerned about the day goes into what counts and stop there come to the last meeting make sure what we put in there is what you want to see in there if you have the time to attend our technical advisory committee following that up with our executive board meetings please do so everything’s on our website wwl ampo org on that website has a direct link to myself and to Jeanette we’re a two-man team here but trust me we are removing you know we’re here to do what you want us to do and I’m looking for different ways of look for funding and yeah you know you talked about the city with a bridge well that is one thing we need you her map is off a tad and part of that’s just gut we live here we know how hard it is to get on off of that bridge

if there’s an event it’s scary so we need to look at alternate things that’s my job it’s not that city’s job dude wats are trying to always figure out all the solutions they have an MPO I can’t find the money but I could find the path I can’t apply for the money but I could find the path that’s my job so I hope that helps explain it a little bit and don’t get frustrated with all these studies there’s a real real important aspect to these studies dan and I talked a couple weeks ago trail study trail study is not just trails guys is multi-use is its many faceted and so yeah I’m digging under rocks to help them to update his study that’s what I do I’m not always successful at it but that’s what I do and I here to listen to you all come on up Mary any questions on that so don’t get frustrated with all the studies they serve a purpose Thank You gene gene helped me work on a grant from state parks and I guess I’m so excited that you guys are talking about how to get the funding because i never thought i could get a grant for a trail for horizon 6 because we had never tried that before but with a lot of help from everybody and friends the fair we are in the final stages of getting that Grant and what started it was I went in January to a workshop in Phoenix for state parks about the grants and now i’m going to go in august to flagstaff for a Fish and Game’s Heritage Fund grant in for me so if we get all the information of how to apply for it I mean it sounds like it’s a miracle to get that funding but it can be done we don’t work at it and then I’m really excited about the coconino one yeah because actually I just drove from Williams and we are right but it up to cataract lake and that was millions of dollars was spent on that park from that tax fund when coke and it’s a minimal percentage of one percent and they did designate cataract lake as one of the places and I walk in there it’s like in my backyard now hi so I’m just really excited there is funding available and I don’t think we can wait for somebody just to hand us the money so I’m hoping everybody starts doing research and we all jump on the bandwagon thanks Marion also keep in mind the city has designated people that do the grant writing but she’s got a full job guys that’s what I mean I don’t know all the funding mechanisms and she cut Mary kind of got me going she goes can you help me while I years ago took grant writing classes because you really learn a lot and you if you’re interested you see something and you go and you say okay I’m gonna take that back to Dan maybe dance because dance got a big job too so it’s alright we were not we don’t get offended when you tell us hey guess what did you know about this one and I say wow I didn’t so anyway I wanted to thank you ladies for doing what you’ve done I did come to the January meeting yeah and I’m a little involved in transportation I’m the chairman of the community Mohave County Transportation Committee but I wanted to let the bike the bicycle is no we did get grant funding and we’re going to have a bit at bike path from Chenoweth all the way to the highway so with a little bit of working with the county and the state we are going to improve that area maybe we can get the city to put a little bit of bike paths from there all the way to the cell so that’s kind of nice and you know that too yeah we need to talk about that one try any thank you thank you ladies for all the hard work you’ve done so there are there are a lot of things that are kind of happening and as I said it would be nice if I can just have the money and give it to you in other jurisdictions that I went to unfortunately the monies cannot money is kind of hidden there it’s kind of there they are not huge but if you add one piece one piece one piece some time you come up with all of it but unless you have a plan then you cannot get the funds because the first thing the grant is going to say what is this for so you gotta have something if you have an established in a doctor plane they also takes priority over somebody say I would like to have something there but nothing got proven but if you have a plan that has been established been adopted and it was verified yes this is needed then you get much more leverage to get the funds that’s that’s for the plan is if there’s no more questions we’re going to invite you up to the board and we’re here to talk with you to answer questions whatever whatever serves you need and like I said if you were unable because we didn’t expect quite this large of a crowd everything today we’ll be on our website tomorrow morning so the quest the survey form is on there if you are unable to get one please please please you know us just talking is not going to get it done is us working together as a group and get those comment forms back to us and then we go from there and look on our website look for when our meetings are and we would love to see you and we want to see the petition John already talked to me about it so come on

up ask actions and those questions remember like I’ll show you what the results are so there are some ranking that I have there for you to identify some type of improvement that you would like in things okay i will have show you what the results of that is going to be next time we meet okay for those people who have to leave i want to thank you very much for having an interest and for coming here and voicing it don’t give up on it don’t give up on it but thank you so much for coming and we hope to see you the next one you