Well welcome back I’m Dave Engel at Engel’s Coach Shop and many of you who have been following along would normally expect a video of me doing some type of carriage work, buggy work, wagon work, whatever horse-drawn related here on this video. Well this week I’m going to go a little different direction. It’s kind of in the same direction as the bobsled video series that we just finished. Last week was part six and when I started this video I purposely listed it as a bob sled listed as two separate words, bob sled, instead of the common nomenclature referring to it as a bobsled as one word. Well it hasn’t raised a lot of questions but it has raised a few and I have addressed some of those in the comment sections but I thought maybe I would do that a little more in depth today. Now I am pretty much a nobody, in a nowhere town, and who am I to say, but I want to go up against the Internet and maybe up against Google and say, “Do they really know everything?” You know Google is a phenomenal phenomenon and it is a phenomenal information resource gathering tool, but it gathers what it is fed, and in this relation the relationship of a bob sled, two words, it has been fed very little, if any, information. So I am a nobody here in a hick town in Montana trying to feed Google some new information and it’s not really quite sure it likes it. I’m sure some of you viewers are not really sure you like it, but I want to take you through a journey and kind of show you why I did what I did and why I still kind of stand on bob sled being two different words, not one word bobsled, even though bobsled is is sure enough a proper term. So in in the basics of it, a bob is something that bobs up and down, it oscillates up and down. Generally, if you look it up in the dictionary So when I did the runners to convert a buggy over into a sleigh I had four individual different runners that went on this buggy to convert it to a sleigh Well, those little runners are oftentimes referred to as bobs, because as they are on the end of the axle they oscillate, they bob up and down over the terrain Well, a bob sled like you watched me build, is also a vehicle, made for winter, that is made for off road, heavy duty use and in rough terrain, and so the the individual runners are put together in a fairly loose manner and therefore are allowed to bob up, oscillate up and over uneven terrain, so hence the term bob sled in two terms. Bob is an adjective describing the sled. It is a bobbing style sled, such as a log sled hauls logs, a hay sled haul’s hay, yada yada yada. So in some of the early, and not really that really early, I have a book that I’m going to show you in a little bit tats shows it distinctly in two words, a bob sled, and it kind of explains some of this bobbing action. So anyway, this is a long-winded monologue, but I’m going to take you to the computer and show you what you see because when we have a question nowadays we go to Mr Google. Google knows everything right? Well let’s go see what Mr. Google has and it’s not just Google, but again, Google is just a resource and a tool that’s gonna take us to dictionaries and Wikipedia’s and yada, yada yada. So let’s go see what Mr. Google has to say about
bobsled or bob sled. So I’m gonna head in to the office here where I do my editing and here is where I keep my computer and this is where we’re gonna go talk to Mr Google. The light isn’t really the best in here, but kind of apologize for that a little bit, but this is where I edit all the videos that you’re watching. I do use Mac computer and we’re gonna go in here and kind of show you what you’re gonna find what I find on Google when I do a search for this different term between bobsled and bob sled. So, this is my my computer here, you can see my screen on here is none other than the borax wagons, surprise, surprise. So let’s bring up Google here and let’s just type in on the top here bob sled as two different words. Well right off it wants to go to Wikipedia under bobsleigh. Now down, here under google suggestions, it has bob sled two words because that’s what I’ve just typed in, but all the others here bobsled, sledding, movie, team, now here’s an option for a bob sled, two different words, as a magazine and we also have some options here on You Tube, bookmarks in history, because this is where I’ve been working on YouTube. So let’s go to bobsled on a bobsleigh on Wikipedia and see what it has. First thing it talks about that it is a team winter sport. Off to the right here we have pictures of an Olympic bobsled in looks like 2010, on down we have a Swiss bobsleigh team, we have an East German bobsleigh team 1951. This is supposedly about the origins and history of bobsleigh as it’s called then. Then we have modern era and some different things about the evolution of the bobsled or the bobsleigh as we know it, which Olympics have made popular. We can see all by the pictures here off to the right. So when Google wants the search for bob sled when I put it in, it comes up bobsleigh Wikipedia. Well let’s go back now and let’s go to YouTube and see what does YouTube think about the term bob sled. So let’s do a search here. Let’s search for bob sled on YouTube as two words. Well one, two, three, four videos come up about the Olympics and bobsled racing. Number five, lo and behold, Engels Shop part six, building a bob sled, and the next one, then we have some more about some Jamaica team and bobsledding So we have us coming up here. Google is recognizing in a two-word phrase, bob sled, lo and behold because little ole me and Joliet Montana is making an impact and educating YouTube, therefore Google. So let’s go back here and let’s take the space out of bob sled, two words, and put it in to one word and see what comes up. Well Engels Coach Shop disappears. We are looking at bobsled, bobsled, bobsled, Olympic, Olympic, Olympic, yada, yada, yada, yada No more telltale sign of Engels Coach Shop. Well you know, I’m gonna go back here and let’s put a space back in bob sled again, and I’m going to show you something I did and I did this on purpose to try to communicate with Google. Now in the title the new horse-drawn bob sled, two words, I put there on purpose, but in the description I put in here, I have finished the new horse-drawn bobsled, one word. The next one, building it from scratch, some bobsled, bobsled one word. I did this on purpose. Down here, to final assembly
on the bob sled runners, bob sled in the title, bob sled two words, but in the description I went back and I put in bobsled, one word, and I did this to communicate with Google, to communicate with YouTube, because as I was looking through this I began to realize that when you put in bobsled, one word, I’m not there. So am i compromising? No, I’m trying to educate YouTube. I’m trying to educate Google. So let’s go out of YouTube. Let’s go to dictionary. Let’s see dictionary.com. So let’s look up bob sled, two different words, and see what dictionary.com has to say. It comes up bobsled, one word, a sled having two pairs of runners, a brake a steering wheel, another mecca… Well what’s it talking about? The Olympic bobsleigh. So a sled formed of two short sleds coupled one behind the other, either the sleds thus coupled. So what has educated dictionary.com seems to be, run by a steering wheel or other mechanism that enables the front rider to direct their sled down a steeply banked run or shoot. The Olympics have educated dictionary.com. So I’m going to get out of here briefly and I’m going to take you to a book that I have, is called the Carriage Terminology, An Historical Dictionary by Don Berkebile Now this book was one of the first books that I purchased when we started the shop here, so this Carriage Terminology, Historical Dictionary was co-published by the Smithsonian Institute 1978 But I simply want to show you in two pictures here, and there is descriptions about them, you’re going to see the picture of this passenger bob sleigh, and you’ll notice here bob sled is listed has two separate words, and then down on the bottom, the bottom picture you’ll see again, a three knee bob sled, listed as two separate words, for two horses. So the whole purpose of sharing with you this book, put out by the Smithsonian that is regarded as kind of the go-to authoritative book when it comes down to the history of multiple, multiple, multiple different styles and makes and models of horse-drawn carriages, buggies, coaches, sleighs, yada, yada, yada, is their reference in that era was that the bob sled was described in a two-term phrase, bob sled, because of the bobbing actions of the individual runners as opposed to a cutter or a sleigh that has a single runner that is long and stiff and doesn’t bob, it floats over the top of uneven surfaces. So kind of bottom line is, why do I even make this an issue Well one, is because it was brought up in the comment section, and it’s not a big deal, but there was a reason why I chose to put bob sled in two different words So, is it worth all this? Not really Somebody says bob sled, or bobsled, Well I think we all know what we’re talking about, but you know we assume sometimes that, oh there’s an authoritative source out there, and Google happens to be one of them. You know, if you need to know something you go to Google. Well you know, kind of, maybe, sorta, but it’s all subject to what Google’s been fed. There’s another case that I want to show you this kind of along the same lines. I stumbled across this, oh two or three years ago, maybe
You know I do kind of like to read through the Bible, and I think from the comments some of you must, excuse me, you must also, and you’re not all, you know it’s not all your thing, and that’s no big deal. I kind of enjoy it, and while I was I was studying in a book, first Kings actually, and since I am in the carriage industry trade I pick up on phrases that have to do with wagons, mules, horses. Well I ran across a phrase in first Kings chapter 7 verse 33 that caught my attention, because it is the only time, that I’m aware of, according to Mr. Strong, James Strong, who is also an authority, who lists the parts of a wheel. It talks about the axle, the hubs the spokes, the felloes, or rims, in a chariot wheel. So I want to take you and show you that verse, and there’s a reason why I want to show you this because most of the versions have it correct in their translation and placement in the verse, but King James does not, and James Strong, who was a Methodist minister who put together the Strong’s Concordance, was a very intelligent man, in both Greek and Hebrew, and so we have an authority that we still rely on today over a hundred years later called the Strong’s Concordance that we give a lot of weight to because of this man’s intelligence, but I want to show you something that I stumbled across, that kind of made me go, hmm. So let me go show you what that was As I wake up my computer we’re gonna go to the Internet and when I do this type of search there are a number of online Strong’s Concordance type references out there There’s one called Online Bible, E-Sword, the one that I use on this computer is called Blue Letter Bible, so I’m going to type it in, it’s probably going to come up because I use it. So this is a resource that is based on the Strong’s Concordance. So I’m going to type in a verse, it says verse, words, or topic. I’m going to go to first Kings seven and 33 and see what it comes up with So this is first King seven 33 and it says, “the work of the wheels was like the work of a chariot wheel; their axletrees, their naves, their felloes, and their spokes, were all molten.” Okay, the nave, axletree is is what we would call the axle today Axletree. Then it has lists, their nave, naves is an English term for hubs, felloes, you’ve seen me list this in number of different videos, sometimes we call them rims, there’s an old term called Felly, f e l l y, This is the term that James Strong used here F e l l o es, and it is a very common phrase so that’s why I’ve kind of defaulted to that phrase. and their spokes. Well let’s just go type in here and it’s gonna bring up what this actually says in the Hebrew since it is in the Old Testament, And how this goes is this word here U-maasay ha ofeneem cmaasay ofein That is, as they were built, the wheels, like the wheels were built, and then this is the word here for chariot, hamercevah, Okay and then we start here, it was like the work of the chariot wheel. This word here is yedotom So this, if we come down here and we’ll find axletree here, the root of that word is Yad which in Hebrew means hand or includes the forearm, so this is the root of this word here, if I highlight that, you see that word there,
yedotom? So, ,and then the next word the govahem. So the root of this word is down here they have down as naves and they have as gav, so this is where it becomes a little interesting. Let’s go to the Hebrew word here, one three five four, we’ll click on it and it talks about here gav, it’s a gimmel,l and a veit. And this talks about, it is the back of a man, a mound, a boss, bulwark brow and here they put down the rim of a wheel, but it has it translated as, what? Let’s go back. They have it translated as the nave, but in their description they actually call it the rim, and the rim is what is referred to as the felloe, so this term here is actually the felloe which they have translated as the nave, which is incorrect. This is just a placement of the definition that I found is interesting. So the next line up, and their felloes, who if we go down here and they have, “and their felloes,” they have this word kishook Let’s look it up, h2839, and this is kishook, with a chet, shin, and a qoof, and this comes up actually as the spoke of a wheel, a wheel spoke or rod connecting hub with the rim, which is true with the definition, but then they define it as felloe. Well the correct definition for kishook is the spoke So, if we go, if I bring this up here, the naves, which they have is gav, should be the felloes and their felloes, in this place should be their spokes So let’s go back, the last word in here is their their naves, their fellows and their spokes. Well down here for their spokes they have the term kishure So this is 2840, and if we go back and look at kisure, it is the hub, the hub of a wheel, or a nave and at this particular time they chose to put in spoke. So you see what I ran across, the axeltree actually is the Yod, which is correct What is the nave here should be the felloes, what is the felloes should be, remember, kishook, is the spoke, and then the third term the spokes should be the knave So we have the gav, the kishook and the kishure. So if you look at these in different translations they actually have them in their correct positions but but even though James Strong went in and put in a correct definition, like in kishure, which is actually the hub of a wheel, from an unused root meaning to bind together, combined, ie the nave or the hub of a wheel, as holding or combining the spokes together, but then for some erroneous reason they defined it as spoke. So they do it correctly, but when they put it in the actual verse they misplace the translation So , big deal? No. All the parts of a wheel are there, but as I study Hebrew, and I ran across this and was reading this, I noticed that these words were misplaced, that it isn’t , “the work of the wheels was like the work of a chariot whee;l their axletrees, their felloes, and their spokes, and their hubs, were all molten.: They have them but in the wrong position. So, anyway, this is just another case of, authority is not benign of being questioned or challenged That’s kind of the the oddity of this video You know, it’s a it’s not really a big deal. I just thought it was an interesting deal. You know, Google can be challenged. Google is not always right Google is being fed a lot of information and that information is worth digging into and cross-checking to see if it is
actually correct. In the case of bobsled or bob sled, Google has not been fed all the information that is out there, because realistically, there’s not very many strange guys like me out there they’re doing this stuff, and in the case of James Strong, and the King James Version, is it a big deal? No But you know, Strong’s Concordance is an authoritative resource that, you know, that this is just one of those times that it can be challenged, questioned and actually to be found wanting, a bit. You know, the main gist of it is there, don’t get me wrong, it’s it’s not a big deal. So, all this to boil down, you know there’s not a lot of people doing what I do. I put videos up on the carriage and wagon and coach trade. I try to do it every week, obviously, if you’ve been following along, and you know you can, … maybe it puts me in this position of authority. You know, so I don’t mind being challenged and when people ask me well, what’s the difference between a bobsled or the bobsleigh and a bobsled one term, and bob sled, and you know just don’t get adamant about that it has to be one way or the other Question it, that’s fine. You know it’s that’s cool I question a lot of things It gets me in a lot of trouble too, but just kind of as a case in point, this whole video deal is, you know, I’m not upset about it, maybe it feels or comes across that I am. I just think it’s kind of interesting and I thought you on the heels of doing this horse drawn bob sled, horse-drawn bobsled, I thought maybe I just kind of bring that up. It’s kind of the hidden history behind some of our terminology that we really don’t stop and think about, or in some cases, are not even able to dig into, because we don’t have any resources past, Google So, anyway thanks for putting up with my rambling. It is actually it’s kind of fun, so I’ll get back into real, real wheel work here coming up soon, but once again thanks for watching!